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dino48 wrote:

Green Bay just won over Dallas,One of the best games I have seen.


Instant classic.  The Cowboys are going to be dominant for a long time with those kids.  But like I said, "Old age and treachery over youth and skill!"  big_smile

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TIGLJK wrote:

Falcons played great
Seahawks at full strength would have a tough time winning

They've looked wobbly most of the last 8 games.  Since Earl Thomas went down their pass defense has been terrible, which shouldn't happen as there are a whole lot of good players not named Earl Thomas on that defense.    The problem this year is the same problem for the last four years, "terrible offensive line," except that this year it was minus Marshawn Lynch and Russel Wilson's legs.   They *have* to do something to address that dumpster fire, or their run is over.   I'm not optimistic, though.  Pete Carroll's greatest asset, his eternal optimism, is also a huge liability some times.  There is only so much shine you can put on a turd.

Atlanta's offense looks *fantastic.*  It's just fun to watch those guys move the ball.   And I'm sure everyone here knows how I feel about Aaron Rodgers (best QB ever, if you didn't) so the NFC championship game is going to be a doozy,  and I'm OK with either team winning.   Atlanta coach Dan Quinn was Seattle's Defensive Coordinator when he got the Falcon's job, so seeing him win the big one would be cool.  And because I'm a big Aaron Rodgers fan, I'm OK with Green Bay winning, too.  From a pure football fan perspective, I win either way there.

I'd live if the Steelers won through (no opinion on it, in fact).  If the Pats end up winning it again, someone is gonna have to talk me off the ledge, though.  big_smile

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topdown wrote:

2 thoughts

- The ACC one again proved they weren't the pushover conference everyone thinks they are

When was the first time.  big_smile

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sisyphus wrote:

There's a world of examples of artists being coerced by industry bureaucracy Jermone

Richard Berry , writer of Louie Louie sold for $750  (later winning  a $2M lawsuit)

It was the Kingsmen (the band that blew the song up) that got sued, specifically *because they hadn't paid any royalties for their cover* of it.  They won that suit.  And they weren't sued by Berry.  They were sued by the guy who ran the company Berry sold it to.

Berry sold his publishing rights for $750 but retained radio play rights.  He bought 3/4ths of the publishing rights back in the 80s.   He didn't get ripped off.  He wrote a song, sold it, and it blew up huge.   He made a pretty decent living writing songs, had one blow up to huge fame, and bought and sold his rights to it just as the law says.

So yes, you may claim it's the'law'  , but it can not achieve, nor can it assume any moral high ground as the 'law'

It is absolutely morally correct that the owners of a song have 100% complete control over what happens with that song.  That includes all rights for play, copy, publishing, and reproduction.

Were I to have the grand priviledge to play Paul McCartney, Chuck Berry , Robert Plant's creations in front of them, do you really think they'd have hat in hat?, speed dial their lawyers?

No, they'd simply wait for their check from BMI or ASCAP, just like the thousands of other artists those organizations protect.  It is their job to look after McCartney and Plant's best interests.

Where i to do the same for some up/coming area artist (yes i've met my share) do you think they're approach would differ?

What they do with their property is entirely up to them.  If they think it's cool you play their stuff, then good on them.  If they think you should pay them for the right to use their material then you should break out the checkbook.

How  anyone steals by simply presenting the 'works' of said entities is purely the machinations of greedy recording industry elitists , who have so little in common with the real musical world it makes me wonder why they pursue it other than stuffing their own coffers

It is the theft of someone's right and privilege to control how their work is used by those who think they should simply have access to whatever they want regardless of the artists desires.  And it's usually with some contorted justification based on "greedy executive" straw men and the singularly bizarre notion that by violating those artists rights, they're actually doing them a favor.  By your line of reasoning, Berry shouldn't even have received $750 for Louie Louie as anyone should have just been able to use it however they wanted.

If you want full control over stuff, write your own stuff.  When you're playing someone else's stuff, you do it according to their rules.  And for a whole lot of people, their rules are "I've joined a rights enforcement group to do that for me."

That's how it should be, as well as being the law.

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sisyphus wrote:

A club has no right to host performances of a work owned by someone else any more than a publishing company has a right to put someone's work on a record if they don't own it.  That is not only morally correct, it's the law.

BMI distributed $950 million in royalties to artists this year on a little over a billion in revenue.   Most of the money they take in goes back to their member artists.

Add in any shopping mall , televised , or otherwise 'public airwave' accessible media playing say, oldies , and the issue would appear to boarder on moral turpitude Jerome

Further, the $$$ goes to the 'copywrite owners',  which in what i understand is the majority of cases , isn't the original creator at all, instead the record labels as well as music industry CEO's are the one's  sucking up the $$$
~S~

That's perfectly OK.  In 100% of those cases the rights to the work were explicitly transferred by contract.   That is also just and the law.  If I write a song and Sony Entertainment buys the rights to the song from me, that is my choice.  I got paid.   If that song goes on and makes Sony a bazillion dollars because they have access to massive marketing and distribution channels, and had Justin Beber sing it, then that is *also* just and correct.  They bought the rights to the song. It belongs to them now.  The reason labels get a large portion of that revenue is because they purchased a large portion of songs from people.

If you sell your car and someone goes and wins the Indy 500 in it,  it doesn't entitle you to any of the winnings.

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beamer wrote:

Its a crap shoot, and all opinions differ.  Why not ask the club owners?

Because club owners are the ones in violation of the artist's rights.  It's essentially asking a thief what he thinks of the police.

If they are making money (and they are) off of other people's music,  they need to pay those other people.  That is what BMI and ASCAP do.

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SM-58s are great mics. I've got two of them.  Should be a regular part of anyone's microphone locker.

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sisyphus wrote:

thx Jerome....., shows what i know......~S~

No worries.   Generally speaking, if you have a speaker cone pointed at the business end of a microphone feeding that speaker, you're probably doing something wrong.  The good news is that the setup will let you know immediately by making a horrible screeching noise.  big_smile

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dino48 wrote:

I wish we could coach the 49ers I know I could do a better job .


Yeah, but that ain't saying much!  big_smile

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beamer wrote:
sisyphus wrote:

Interesting replies , and much appreciated guys.   

Alton is basically thumbing his nose @ BMI , vs. i'm told it's also a good org to join

If we 'create' , i can understand the copywrite laws granting ownership to the creator. 
Where we to do so, this is easy to do (i've done the postage thing in my past) 
IF i was an aspiring artist , i'd want my work foisted upon the public in any mode of communication possible, imitation being the highest form of flattery i can plainly see the exponential return

What i don't understand is where that dime really goes playing covers ,  what % does the actual creator really get?  Most of what i read from top players isn't all unicorns and buttercups concerning the 'industry'

~S~

BMI is the music mafia,  its not about the artist, its about their profit margin, They didnt have to worry about it in the old days cause it covered mainly for covers you do on a record or commercial, but now with streaming and low record sales,ect,, they are going after club owners like a strong arm collection for the mob.  Honestly, and no offence to any in chordie, but I would take advice from the guy who is still in the thick of the industry at the club level.  Not only the above stuff I have showed you , but he has also been road mgr for Caleb Johnson (American idol winner and touring with Kiss at this time) and he works sound for the Artimis Pyle (original Lynyrd Skynrd drummer) band.  The guy lives music and Pays his bills with  it.  I would take his advice any day.

A club has no right to host performances of a work owned by someone else any more than a publishing company has a right to put someone's work on a record if they don't own it.  That is not only morally correct, it's the law.

BMI distributed $950 million in royalties to artists this year on a little over a billion in revenue.   Most of the money they take in goes back to their member artists.

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Dirty Ed wrote:

That's why I write my own songs, so folks won't know how bad I play covers.

DE

That is exactly my position.  It's hard a bluegrass festivals, though.  All those jams going on and I don't know any songs.  big_smile

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sisyphus wrote:

My Q is, does a band need to register to play cover tunes?  Would this then release bar owners the BMI responsibility?   Has anyone else gone down this road?  Christ on a cracker,i'm just a musician , not a lawyer......~S~

You don't pay to play cover tunes.  The bar pays so that whoever wrote that song gets paid for your right to play that cover tune.   Responsibility for acquiring those rights rests with the venue.   

It is actually to your benefit to join BMI and other artists rights organizations though, as it generally costs nothing, and it ensures you will get paid if someone is playing your original songs.

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dino48 wrote:

I think it will be Green Bay and one of the others.

I agree.  I'm sticking with Green Bay - Patriots for right now, but the weekend is coming and reality always wins.

So!  College football championship game was last night, pitting the favored Alabama Crimson Tide against the Clemson Tigers.  Clemson won it a squeeker of a fantastic game in the very last seconds.    I have been down on Clemson all year long based on their habit of winning close games in the final second against not-so-good teams.  I predicted Ohio State would crush them.  Ooops.   Clearly we all know why I'm a peanut thrower and armchair QB.  big_smile

I do compare what Clemson did to how Washington performed against Alabama.  Alabama's D is fantastic, but as I've noted before, that is mostly as a result of their line and linebackers, most of which will eventually end up in the NFL.  Their secondary isn't all that great, and DeShaun Watson threw for over 400 yards against them.  Clemson's defense gave up 31 points, while the Huskies only gave up 17 and held them to less than 350 total yards.  So where was the difference?

Clemson was perfectly willing to go up top, and Deshawn Watson isn't afraid to get hit.   Huskies QB Jake Browning isn't afraid to go up top, either, and he had the receivers to do it.  He just doesn't play well under pressure, and the Tide D brought it all night long.   The Husky play calling was intended to get the ball out of his hands quickly, which means dinking and dunking right into the teeth of those Tide linemen and linebackers.  Which is why Alabama's linebackers scored on a pick-six and the Huskies couldn't move the ball after Alabama adjusted to their "not going deep" strategy and brought their safeties down close.

Anyway, great game, and congrats to the Clemson Tigers.  You'll suck next year!  big_smile

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sisyphus wrote:

Interesting Phill,    so how would you place the mains?  Would they be in front, or in back of the band?  ~S~

Mains are always in front of the band.  The last thing you want is your mains behind your microphones.

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Phill Williams wrote:

I never use monitors, when I did a while ago, I got a ton of feed back. I know everyone will say; place them carefully and turn them down....in small rooms which I play both options would just defeat the object. Sound is important, probably as important as being tight and rehearsed so if you don't have a sound man out front, I would suggest a monitor for the drummer only. Everyone else can hear the PA and keep the instrumental balance seeing as it's a vocal only PA.

If the venue is small enough to support less, I'd always go with less.

But there is no more deafening a silence than on a really loud stage when the stage monitors decide to fade out.  big_smile

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1.  Write more music and prose.
2.  I've dropped almost 50lbs of weight since August.  Lose another 25 and keep it off.
3.  Treat my wife better because she's really high maintenance and deserves it.  big_smile
4.  Get back on the bike.  See #2.
5.  Finish my festival scheduling tool and go to market with it.

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And after further reading...

It sounds like you're going to have to haul your own PA gear around, which is a complete and total drag.   I did that for a long time and I'll never do it again, unless the Queen is in attendance or something.

But if you gotta....  Buy powered amps.   Avoid an external PA at all costs as they weigh a ton, and need their own enclosure to be moved and hauled about.     Buy a mixer with a separate control room buss that you can use to send to your monitors without tinkering with the mix going to the crowd.   Buy four of em.  Two for the crowd, and two for stage monitors.   If you can get a wireless headset monitoring system, that is a way better option than floor monitors.  They can be expensive, though.

I have a couple of Pyle 600W powered speakers that I plug into a Behringer 2442 and it works great.

Ultimately, though, the way we fixed that was simply not playing places that didn't have their own sound system.  big_smile

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Get yourself a copy of Room EQ Wizard, measure the heck out of that place, and treat it accordingly.

Then come over to my house and build another one.  big_smile

https://www.roomeqwizard.com/

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TIGLJK wrote:

I'm hoping for a SeaHawks - Steelers Superbowl - I can't lose - my two faves !!

Of all the match-ups I'd like to see the 'Hawks in the Superbowl with, this is the one that least interests me.  And it's nothing against the Steelers.  That would be a great game. 

It's because if it is a rematch of Superbowl XL, then I'm going to have to listen to every whiner in the universe cry about officiating and getting robbed! (With no mention of all those dropped passes) and I don't think I could handle that.  big_smile

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Seahawks won decisively.   Honestly, I didn't think they were going to win.  They could barely run the ball against San Francisco, and while Detroit's defense is no great shakes, they're better than the 49ers.   Couple that with "Matt Stafford vs "not-Earl Thomas" at safety" and I thought it would be a 47-32 track meet.

Atlanta is a whole 'nother kettle, though.

Green Bay v. Dallas is going to be a classic.  Steelers v Chiefs has all the makings of a classic.

Good weekend of football coming up!  smile

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And Dino, it looks like you're getting your wish come true!  Both Chip Kelley and Trent Baalke are out in SFO.

Somehow, I don't think that will fix it, though.  big_smile

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dino48 wrote:

49ers TRIED. Go Green Bay.

I don't know what Pete was thinking when he pulled his starters in the 4th.  The Seahawks are already stumbling into the playoffs, slipping from the #2 to the #3 seed when they choked on Arizona.   If they had lost to the 49ers, they would have slipped to #4 and instead of seeing Detroit at home, they'd be on the road to Green Bay.

In college ball, my Huskies went out and put on a pretty good show against Alabama.  The Dawgs defense held Alabama's offense mostly in check (320 total yards and 17 points) but that Alabama defense was as good (or better) as advertised, and managed to stymie the Huskies offense and score a bunch of points on their own.    Big plays decided the game, and Alabama made them.    27-7 final.

The other semi-final game went like I though:  A blowout, but it was Clemson embarrassing Ohio State rather than the other way around like I had predicted.  I don't know if that means Ohio State wasn't that good or if Clemson really was that good, but  Alabama will let us know when Clemson plays them for the national championship.  big_smile

The Big 10 did not fare well in bowl season.  Along with the Buckeyes getting killed, Michigan lost to Florida State, and Big 10 champion Penn State lost a doozy to USC in the Rose Bowl.

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Oh yeah, and re: headphones.  Buy for comfort, and I'd opt for an open back pair vs a closed back pair.  Regardless of what you get, you're going to have to attenuate the lows as every set of cans will pump up the bass simply as an artifact of them being so close to your ears.   

Get a cheap pair of speakers and you'll have better luck.   You don't have to mix at high volumes (~80db is about where most studios target - Same as a telephone dial tone) so you won't be keeping the neighbors awake, you won't blow up your stereo image, and you'll get a better representation of what is in the track.

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"Condenser or USB" isn't really a question.  big_smile

"Condenser or Dynamic" is a question, and the answer depends on "What am I doing with it, and what else do I have in my arsenal?"  Then you get to answer "How am I going to hook this sucker up to my computing box?"

If you are going to be recording in your house and going to be recording a variety of instruments, I'd always opt for a condenser over a dynamic mic.  Condensers are much more sensitive to input so you'll get better fidelity in your recording.   The frequency response for condensers is a whole lot flatter than for dynamics, which tend to lose considerable signal on the low end.  If I'm going to be recording high volume signals like a guitar amplifier, or taking it on the road for use on stage, I'd opt for a dynamic microphone.  Durability, resistance to feedback,  and the ability to handle high spl is what you will get with a dynamic mic.

The USB vs XLR (or 1/4 inch plug) question depends on whether you have an audio interface capable of handling microphones or not.   If you have no other equipment go with a USB mic it will do your D-A conversion for you, and you can basically plug it in and go.  If you have an external interface, I wouldn't go with the USB.  One of the nice things about an external interface is that you can upgrade it to get better pre-amps and DACs while with a USB mic, you're stuck with what is in the mic.  Nothing other than a new mic will fix that.  And remember,  most condenser mics require a +48v "phantom power" signal in order to work.  A USB condenser will usually provide that on it's own, but an externally connected mic will need that through the pre-amp to which it is connected.

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TIGLJK wrote:

Green Bay is not in yet- Lions could ruin their season with a win.  ( Doubtful, but possible.)

Steelers are gonna surprise someone - IF - they cn some support from their D- Line.

The Packers are red hot right now, right when they need to be.   I don't see anyone beating them.

Steelers v Pats in the AFC Championship game.  Score will be 137 - 104.  big_smile