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#26 2011-08-18 19:56:38

jerome.oneil
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Re: I want to record some covers

I'm sorry I got to this late, but I would suggest starting with a good audio microphone rather than the camera.   Buy a cheap camera.  Start recording both audio and video at the same time, and then simply merge the two.  You'll get a much better finished product.  Remember, you're recording a song.  The video quality should be secondary to the audio quality.

Good quality condenser microphones are cheap, and will give you orders of magnitude better audio quality than you will get with whatever mic comes with your camera. 

http://www.amazon.com/MXL-990-Condenser … mp;sr=1-15

http://www.amazon.com/Behringer-C-1-Stu … pd_cp_MI_4

http://www.amazon.com/CAD-U37-Condenser … pd_cp_MI_3


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#27 2011-08-18 22:56:18

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Re: I want to record some covers

Thanks Jerome.  I didn't like the onboard audio for the webcam at all.  That's why I bought a cheap external mic.  A CAD U1, which made a lot of difference in sound.  I will be looking for an even better one, so thanks for the choices.  I'll look into them.


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#28 2011-08-18 23:56:42

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Re: I want to record some covers

Way to go Pete - looks and sounds great. It takes guts to show yourself performing to the world so kudos to you!


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#29 2011-08-19 00:13:07

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Re: I want to record some covers

Thanks topdown. Been wanting to do it for a long time.  Now if I can do it so can everyone else.

Last edited by bensonp (2011-08-19 00:16:11)


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#30 2011-08-19 00:18:49

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Re: I want to record some covers

bensonp wrote:

OK, the big moment has arrived.  A little explanation first.  Iwas happy with the video portion of my new webcam, but the audio sounded terrible.  As a matter of fact, I quit playing for 2-3 days after listening to myself.  My singing sounded terrible and my guitar sounded like an aluminum uke.  I thought have I been sorely better in my mind than I really was?  What a let down. So I bought an external mic and here you go.  It'll be awhile til I get good enough to go on American "Old Fart" Idol, but hey.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AY-EqmDxS9g

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUF4crrATpY

Great job!  Commented on your tube wink


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#31 2011-08-19 01:32:07

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Re: I want to record some covers

You got it going on,Pete.
toots


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#32 2011-08-19 01:40:32

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Thanks guys.  You don't happen to be talent scouts?  Looking for my break. smile


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#33 2011-08-19 02:04:07

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Re: I want to record some covers

Yahoooo, way to go Pete. Please do more, I like your sound.


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#34 2011-08-19 02:59:54

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Re: I want to record some covers

Good stuff,,  sounded great

Fatstrings


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#35 2011-08-19 03:02:46

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Re: I want to record some covers

Hi pete,you sound really Good!, I was only able too hear the Marty Robbins song, I put the Runeround Sue on and after ten min it said error occured so I could not view it,I will try again. Were you picking with your bottom fingers as it sounds like chords and some picking mixed in. I think you are being real hard on yourself,you should be patting yourself on the back.

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#36 2011-08-19 04:43:59

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Re: I want to record some covers

I think your on your way the sound is good and the lighting provides the cam with a nice result have a ball with your new gear good job Pete smile


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#37 2011-08-19 05:00:36

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Hey Pete!  Great job!  Glad you got your recording act together.  Crystal clear picture and sound was very good also.  Congrats! 

PS:  There is absolutely nothing wrong with being an Old Fart.  Many of us are or are striving to be!


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#38 2011-08-19 16:17:32

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Thanks for all the nice comments.  It does my heart good. Just using a pick, dino.  I like to randomly pick notes as I play the chords.  Gives it an extra something.  Totally random arpeggios, but I think I do get a pattern or two in there once in a awhile.  I will be doing more of course, now that it's in my blood and exciting too. I guess next I need to learn how to edit the songs.  For now I just record them the best I can, leaving in the mistakes and all.

Last edited by bensonp (2011-08-19 16:19:32)


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#39 2011-08-19 17:13:53

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#40 2011-08-20 21:40:44

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Re: I want to record some covers

In an effort to make my sound better, I noticed that if I sing directly into the mic, it sounds better, or if I put the mic directly in front of the guitar, it sounds better.  So far I am placing the mic somewhere in between, but I know the sound can be better.  So, this brings to mind using two mics, but the PC will only recognize one or the other, if I am reading correctly.  Keep in mind I am using a USB mic (they have come a long way and sound great).  Is there software available that will allow me to use two USB mics?  Or do I need a mixer.  And will a simple mixer work well with the computer?  I really want to do better, but I need help.


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#41 2011-08-20 22:22:37

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Re: I want to record some covers

Sounds like you need a mixer, Pete.


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#42 2011-08-20 23:15:57

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Re: I want to record some covers

Been checking into a mixer, but can I hook it up to my computer?


You can see all my video covers on http://www.youtube.com/bensonp1000
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#43 2011-08-20 23:27:54

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Re: I want to record some covers

Better than a mixer is to use some cheap software like mixcraft which is excellent. This will then allow you to record guitar into one track and edit any errors and when you are happy with it, record a seperate vocal track. This would be way cheaper than buying the gear for a second mic plus the second mic itself. It would also allow you to add drum loops etc as a backing and you will be well on the way to getting some quality results. Nice job already thought keep it going.


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#44 2011-08-22 22:39:22

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Re: I want to record some covers

In hopes I am not over doing a bad thing, I wanted to post one more song that Charlie Landsborough did, called "I Will Love You All My Life".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JSwBwGol5c

Last edited by bensonp (2011-08-22 22:39:53)


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#45 2011-08-23 02:40:48

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Pete I tried too see your utube videos and I keep getting a message that an error occured so I can not see your videos. I tried the move it on over and runaround sue. I can get into arkady's and russells.


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#46 2011-08-23 14:00:21

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Re: I want to record some covers

Well Pete, it seems you're officially a pro youtuber now! 

Next time, you can post your covers in the "my local band and me" section to show off... or even update your profile here on chordie to showcase your youtube profile as your website address!  smile  Great job!


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#47 2011-08-23 16:14:55

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Re: I want to record some covers

Thanks Amy.  I will check into those ideas for sure.  I do know I have a long way to go.  This is just a start, but I sure am having fun.  I have learned a lot of things about my singing and playing from watching my videos.  That's a good thing.  And I do know now that it is easier to play in front of people than wait for that red recording light to come on.  Sometimes it flusters me so much that I end up redoing the song about 5 times.  That's nerve racking.


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#48 2011-08-23 19:39:04

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Re: I want to record some covers

Yep, absolutely. http://tascam.com/product/us-122/specifications/

Multitrack recording with these things requires a little bit of knowledge about your DAW software, but once it's set up, it's a cake walk.  It will also let you hook up higher end mics, rather than using USB mics.  Here is a good article on selecting an audio interface.  http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/nov04/a … sician.htm

Regarding your comments on getting close to the mic, dynamic mics like yours are intended for vocal and close amp use and are designed to handle high volumes.  Getting right up on it is how you will get the best sound out of it.   If you're looking for a "room" mic, then a condenser mic like I listed above is what you want.  Those things will pick up every footstep and gnat belch within 50 feet.

What software are you using to record with?


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#49 2011-09-04 06:55:57

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Re: I want to record some covers

Hey Pete, finally got to watch a couple of your new vids. Very good! All that work
  is paying off. You are way ahead of me but I am still threatening to get some vids
  one way or ? We might be competing on A.O.F.I.        Mike


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#50 2011-09-04 16:31:55

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Alright Mike, lets go for it.  I am getting a little better, also, watching my videos back.  It gives you a good picture of what you are doing wrong.  I sure am enjoying it anyway. Thanks for the comment.


You can see all my video covers on http://www.youtube.com/bensonp1000
I have finally found happiness in my life.  Guitars, singing, beer and camping.  And they all intertwine wonderfully.

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