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#1 2012-08-07 22:23:00

USMC7312
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Chord Question (Timing & Beats)

Really dumb question but never used chordie. Given the following:

chorus:
D----------- G-------- A---- D
All gave some, some gave all
------------- G----------------------------------A -----------------------D
Some stood through for the red, white and blue and some had to fall
--C-----------------D
> And if you ever think of me
G -----------------Em-----------C----D
Think of all your liberties and recall
D--------------G
Some gave all

At one point I was told each Chord above represented a full measure? Is this true? If not how do you tell how many strums are given for each chord?

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#2 2012-08-07 22:41:26

Roger Guppy
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Re: Chord Question (Timing & Beats)

The chords are supposed to be placed where they come in with the lyrics and the number of beats does not come into it at all. You really need to know the song, or listen and play along to work out the duration of each chord.

Roger


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#3 2012-08-07 23:02:32

USMC7312
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Re: Chord Question (Timing & Beats)

Thanks for answering.  So how do you chose and use a strumming pattern?  Lets say given the example above, lets say you use 1/8 pattern of D - DU - UDU.  Do you just break this in half?

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#4 2012-08-08 01:35:35

zguitar
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Re: Chord Question (Timing & Beats)

USMC7312 wrote:

Thanks for answering.  So how do you chose and use a strumming pattern?  Lets say given the example above, lets say you use 1/8 pattern of D - DU - UDU.  Do you just break this in half?

That's a good place to start. Like Roger said, you need to be familiar with the song. Typically if each chord is 1 measure then your strum would coincide with that.

Example: Take your D DU UDU that you had. Assuming that it is a 4/4 song, your strum would count, 1 2& &4&.
                                                                                                                                             D DU UDU

So that strum would be a full measure. Strum this pattern once thru for each chord.


Hope that makes sense.

Last edited by zguitar (2012-08-08 01:38:02)


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#5 2012-08-08 09:58:18

Roger Guppy
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Re: Chord Question (Timing & Beats)

USMC7312 wrote:

Thanks for answering.  So how do you chose and use a strumming pattern?  Lets say given the example above, lets say you use 1/8 pattern of D - DU - UDU.  Do you just break this in half?

Is that the correct strumming pattern for this song?

In any case when learning a new song I think it is a big mistake to worry about strumming patterns. All you need to start is the basic 4 or 3 beats (for 4/4 and 3/4 respectively) to ensure you can sing the song and fit the chords in the right place. Once you can do that, you can get the strumming right. Trying to do everything all at once is a recipe for disaster unless you are very experienced.

Roger.


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#6 2012-08-08 16:39:25

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Re: Chord Question (Timing & Beats)

I agree with that, Roger.  I'm a relative "newbie" but when I want to learn a new song, I print off the lyrics and listen to the song while reading.  I then take a pencil and mark the lyrics where I hear the chord changes.  Once that's done, I put the chords at those locations.  I have found that someitmes the chords on this site need to be "tweeked" as far as position.  Then I play the song with strictly down strums at the chord change until I'm comfortable with it.  The LAST step is to mute the strings while listening to the song to try to pull out the strum pattern.  Then I work on putting the whole thing together.  Works for me and KEEPS IT FUN, Dean


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#7 2012-08-09 03:44:02

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Re: Chord Question (Timing & Beats)

You can't be that newb Dean. I'm 4 years in and I can't listen to a song and tell the difference between a strum change or a chord change.

Good for you!!!!


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#8 2012-08-09 07:16:22

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Re: Chord Question (Timing & Beats)

zguitar wrote:

You can't be that newb Dean. I'm 4 years in and I can't listen to a song and tell the difference between a strum change or a chord change.

Good for you!!!!

Bet you could if you tried. My brother calls me a technician. I am not musically inclined like he and his son are I just practice alot. I can't even tune a guitar by ear but I find that if I concentrate I can hear the chord changes and even the strum patterns.

Give it a shot. I think you will be pleasantly surprised Z.

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#9 2012-08-10 00:56:52

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Re: Chord Question (Timing & Beats)

1. Entice your audience to drink.
2. Make up the rest.

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#10 2012-08-10 03:06:37

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Re: Chord Question (Timing & Beats)

Zurf wrote:

1. Entice your audience to drink.
2. Make up the rest.

- Zurf

Best answer ever!!!


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#11 2012-08-20 13:17:56

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Re: Chord Question (Timing & Beats)

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#12 2013-11-03 12:23:27

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Re: Chord Question (Timing & Beats)

YouTube videos are an immense help with strumming patterns. If you can find a video of your song, just watch the picking hand of the guitarist and duplicate ... way easier than trying to decipher notations.


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