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SouthPaw41L wrote:

That's funny stuff Jerome!! The mullet and the dew rag, that guy's a true fashion icon!! Hey, did you hear the one about the stoner and the.......my watch is cool......

The best part of that pic is his creative spelling of the word "moron."

Irony!  Woot!

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Old doll I dont think I am an acident but, I cinda am my mom did not mean to have me. She was young and stupped (as she says)I do have one friend that is going through the same thing. we both have the same problems.Like her boy friend is tring to kill him self.I had gone through this already with my old boy friend.I told her to call his parents and tell them and she did.and he is in a hospital right now.but today she found out that he was tring to hang him self.
She cryed and so did I. I still keep in tuch with my old friends and I visit them so times and my friend meggan and her family pray for me all the time (I just found out) I try to be around the good friends more.
                                    I miss being 11,mostly because I was at my old school where we were very sheltered.I felt safer their.but I still have my guitar and my piano,and the songs I wright to express my self.

Lets go melt some faces!!!!

28 (edited by Old Doll 2007-09-27 07:58:02)

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Hi Rockerchicks,
your Mam wasnt stupid, she just wasnt taught about contraception soon enough. or how important it is to young people... Never and i mean never
allow any Man or Boy have control over your body. If your going to be sexually active then take responsibility for it. Why would any woman allow Men to call
the shots on whether they become pregnant or not. It can take seconds and a lifetime of responsibility for you! If your left with a baby.. Thats the first lesson you learned from your mother inadvertantly! In my eyes this act is for consenting adults, It is a very serious game of give and take.. It can be lust
or the most beautiful love between 2 people.. Your Choice To Make.

Darling, you absolutely  made the right  decision to inform your friend to tell the parents.. But ive learned we have no control when someone decides to do this to themselves... Again its there choice. Theres is no way to stop it. My sons
friend, A Beautiful Handsome Man of 30, just 3 weeks ago done this deed.
He in the papers was called "A gentle Giant" which he was. We have no clue as to why?  Had been laughing with all his friends 1 hour before he done this to himself... No answers to it.. But you must realize we havent the power to stop them.. To much responsibility for you so young to think you can..

James McCormick from the Forum Here wrote a beautiful piece called
"The Sparkling Chains" Its about people connections and how we link to one another as we meet and its all for a reason.. One of the lines is
"May you be a Proud Link in The Sparkling Chains". Rockerchick you are a Diamond in the link you have made here! You have opened up a chain of though on this forum regarding young people and how life can be tough for them. You are here because you have a message somehow to impart to us.
You are very special. Know this and carry it always with you.
Keep your music close to you, please post some of your songs in the songwriting section.. You will get great encouragement from the forum there.

Keep with your church you cant go wrong there. The people there will be on the same level of thinking as you.
We are here for you also. And my invite to email still stands..
As i said earlier we have choices. I want one of yours to be "HAPPY"

My love and light to you A Grá

Old Doll.

Why Blend in with the Crowd ? When you were made to stand out !

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Hey rockerchick,

Being 13 sucks, until your 19 like me, then you just beg to be 13 again because being 19 can suck too.

Parents are hard work, I lost most of my memory in an accident when I was 8 and so I don't remember mine being around when I was younger. then from there till now they've always been busy, working, seeing their friends, getting divorced and blaming it on each other, its pretty hard shit for them to deal with and even harder for my two younger siblings to understand and cope with.

The thing to remember about parents is that they're just kids that grew up, or are still trying to grow up. They look at you and remember what they or their friends were doing at your age and they flip out trying to make sure that you don't end up like them or people they knew.

You need to remember that when you were born they were changing your diapers, then as you get older they start to lose control over you, and eventually when you're fully grown its them that will need looking after. and when it comes to that point their going to be sitting around hoping like hell that they did a good enough job and that you'll do them prouder then they did their parents, but hoping even more that you don't repeat their mistakes and that your happy with your life.

I guess all of that^ is a long time coming and kind of hard to relate to your everyday life with them. but just remember that the reason they go mad is because they care. its a case of being able to show them that you can deal with stuff without them, but that you'd prefer to meet them half way. I won't lie to you, these next few years will not be easy, not with your parents nor with your friends at times, but these years are crucial in shaping you into the adult you want to be and your parents are crucial to helping you in that.

I think the best way to deal with things is really on the first page of this post, James McCormick put it perfectly, earn their respect by respecting yourself and managing your life properly. it sounds a lot easier than it is, and alot of us never perfect it, but starting young is the best way. the best thing about it is that not only will this help you with your parents but it will help you with your music career too.

When I was fifteen I dropped out of school and started an entertainment company with two of my best friends. we basically wanted to help people who sucked at academic study but excelled at the performing arts and get their careers off the ground. we were young and foolish in that we thought we knew everything, but we did do alot of good. the company remains to this day though I quit last year due to a fall out with one of my colleagues. yet I'm still thankful that I did it, cos even though I don't have an education academically I have learnt ALOT about business, about people, about music, art, theatre, drama, dance, beatboxing, MCing, and have made more friends than I can count from drug dealers to television directors all the way up to senior politicians. What I learnt the hardest though, and I learnt it hard every time,  was that if you truly want to be able to live life your way, you need to take responsibility from the start, you need to be brave and just do it your way, take responsibility for your fuck-ups and don't let anyone stop you, and eventually you'll find out the only person who CAN stop you is yourself. so take James advice and learn to conquer yourself.
Succeed and you'll have learnt skills that will benefit you for the rest of your life, plus I guarantee you that your parents will stress at you less.

Fail, or ignore what I'm saying, and you may not fail at life, but you'll be like every other teenager your age, sitting around at home after arguing with their parents because they feel they cant be trusted and asking each other "why me?" or "whys my life so difficult?" instead of doing anything about it.

Like I said, it won't be easy, but try and keep positive and do it. if you do then every positive thing that happens to you will be a blessing, and every negative thing will have a positive lesson within it to learn, and that in itself is also a blessing.

If you try it, if you truly give it everything you have, if you re-read what james wrote and what i've written here, and you try and try and try, and life STILL doesn't improve, let me know within 3 months, and I'll sell my organs on ebay give you the money, and then you'll be too rich to worry about anything.

good luck darlin xx

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Xp Here, here.

I'm me, get used to it.

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Rockerchick:

Here's the bottom line, when you look in the mirror who do you see? Not any of us replying to your post. Tell me who do you see? Your all that matters, someone's views or perceptions of who or what you should be don't matter. You matter and what makes you happy matters. I cannot crawl into your skin and be you, I don't know what is in your head or in your heart (I know who is in your heart though). Life is a learning experience some of us take longer to learn and take the hard way. Some come out unscathed others still have the scars, one thing we share in common is experience gained, good, bad or indifferent.

Scripture say's that we are in this world not of it (paraphrased) so being different is ok. It also say's that we are a particular people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation. So who should you worry about making happy? Does not a righteous man fall 70 times 70. Continue to worship and praise through your playing, be diligent and you will be rewarded. For your time will come and your prayers do not fall on deaf ears. Take it from me I am a very, very blessed man. Though I do not deserve it, nor am I worthy of it but never the less I am blessed as you will be.

Time to get of the pulpit.

Rev.Bootlegger.
(yes it's real, I told you that He was not finished with me).

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Here's the facts of life for you youngsters out there.

The following are axiomatic.

1. Young and stupid are synonymous.
2. 13 is to young to have a boy/girl friend.
3. Boys are stupid and easy to replace.
4. Life begins at 30.

Life is long, and sometimes hard, but it's mostly pretty cool.  It isn't until you reach adulthood that you realize how true that is.

Someday we'll win this thing...

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Hi All,
while i agree with all thats being said, there is one other point i would like to draw your attention to.
.
ESTROGEN! In woman young or Old-er  can be a bewildering time for us.
The Estrogen Cycle is to some woman an absolute nightmare every month.
I ask any Man here to understand how there loving partner can turn into a walking demon for a week sometimes 2 out of every month.  The Chemical
imbalance causes all kinds of problems for woman young or old. Even
very intelligent woman who understand how hormones work, will look in the mirror at this time and havent a clue who they are... All they know at this time is they feel ugly, insecure, unloved, bloated. They will cry it seems for no rational reason known to Man. Which is also bewildering to Men..
The wonderous thing about Estrogen is it allows for the process of becoming  Pregnant and the beautiful experiience of birthing our babies.. But all of this goes out the window when this imbalance occurs..

In classes ive done over the years Men have stated," if woman know this "why dont they get a grip" They can't. the imbalance in chemical changes in the body doesn't allow for This.. As soon as the balance restores its self! Woman know they have been different, and so the cycle goes..... At times in my own life i could have happily made a foot ball from my womb and ovaries! and Kicked it from one end of this island to the other.

Men on the other hand are lucky with there  Testosterone.. They feel powerful.
They also have the quick release factor, when the feeling becomes to much
for them, [Lucky Sods}.
So when Daddies Girl turns into "linda Blair" from the exorcist, Or Mum turns into  "Annie Wilkes" from Misery, Spare a thought for the demon Estrogen?
and in particular for  young girls who this is all new to..

 

Irma Thomas, explains why Woman Cry sometimes for no apparent reason in  this beautiful  song "Hold Me while i Cry" "You tube."
I know im always longwinded with these posts. I cannot blame estrogen for
this...Ive looked in the mirror this morning { not a pretty sight in jammies, maybe its stats i should be doing} But thankfully I and the good lord knows who i am..
Have a Happy Day Chordians. I intend to..

Barróga agus Póga to you all.


Old Doll.

Why Blend in with the Crowd ? When you were made to stand out !

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Fairy Tale: 

One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who,

surprisingly, did not whine, nag, and bitch........


But this was a long time ago.....

and it was just ONE day.

The End


Old Doll.   Tehe.

Why Blend in with the Crowd ? When you were made to stand out !

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A life lesson I'd like to share; In my early teens I was having a difficult time dealing with issues that life was handing me. Things like; my parents splitting up, losing my friends as we changed schools, sexual relationships, drug and alcohol experimentation, the facade of religion, and local law enforcement encounters. Pretty much the usual stuff a teen ager goes through.

Something happened that changed my life right then and there. I did some volunteer work with multi-handicapped children. To see the struggles these 'heros' went through day to day, hour by hour, made my issues seem so small. The exposure to these wonderful little human beings and their tenacity and positive outlook on life changed my life immediately. I'm not saying one should minimize one's own issues that cause pain but just think for a moment how bad things actually are and how much worse things could be.

Give everything but up.

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SouthPaw41L wrote:

Something happened that changed my life right then and there. I did some volunteer work with multi-handicapped children. To see the struggles these 'heros' went through day to day, hour by hour, made my issues seem so small. The exposure to these wonderful little human beings and their tenacity and positive outlook on life changed my life immediately. I'm not saying one should minimize one's own issues that cause pain but just think for a moment how bad things actually are and how much worse things could be.

Having an autistic son has given me insight into how small my problems really are.

Someday we'll win this thing...

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well, all I have to say right now is old doll that was interesting!

Lets go melt some faces!!!!

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Was just a few years ago I went through this. I'm 15 now, and I couldn't be happier. Step back and take a look at what your parents have done for you. In my case it is thanks to them that I play guitar. I'm sure you can find something like that too.

"You have to get over the love of power, and enjoy the power of love, in order to know peace."
-Jimi Hendrix.

39 (edited by arkady 2007-09-29 21:36:22)

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jerome.oneil wrote:

Here's the facts of life for you youngsters out there.

The following are axiomatic.

1. Young and stupid are synonymous.
2. 13 is to young to have a boy/girl friend.
3. Boys are stupid and easy to replace.
4. Life begins at 30.

Life is long, and sometimes hard, but it's mostly pretty cool.  It isn't until you reach adulthood that you realize how true that is.

1. Young and stupid are synonymous (Unless of couse you are young and/or stupid)
2 13 is to young to have a boy/girl friend (Unless of course you are 13)
3 Boys are stupid and are easy to replace (With hind sight yes at the time no)
4 Life begins at 30 (Well maybe I think it's more like 50)

It's strange when you have Grandchildren you view children growing up with perhaps a more sympathetic eye.

Regards

Arkady

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arkady wrote:

It's strange when you have Grandchildren you view children growing up with perhaps a more sympathetic eye.

I have three children, the oldest of which is in college, the youngest of which is in kindergarten.  The worst thing you can do for a child convinced they are unique and misunderstood is to buy into it and give it a sympathetic eye.

There is no mystery surrounding children.  There is a reason we treat them like children.  Ensuring that they grow out of their myopic narcissism is job one for any parent.

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jerome, you are telling the truth. I have a daughter, and once they go on 13, you loose control, not about the education she got, but they start (13-17 years) to search their path in their lifes.
Sometimes, better most of them are adults in a kid body, but a lot more are kids in an adult body.
But 30 = horrible, bye bye the fabulous 20-30 years.

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42 (edited by arkady 2007-10-04 19:07:35)

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Jerome

Jerome wrote:

The worst thing you can do for a child convinced they are unique and misunderstood is to buy into it and give it a sympathetic eye.

Well I differ on this every child is unique we are all different and I certainly didn’t
buy into anything as you call it not sure what you mean by that.

I certainly don’t think there is any “mystery surrounding children"  lol. After bring up two a girl and boy who are now both married. One with two Children, A mystery is the last thing it is.

Jerome wrote:

There is a reason we treat them like children..

Again seeing two sides of argument doesn’t mean you are not treating them as children just perhaps you are a little more open to where they are coming from.


Jerome wrote:

Ensuring that they grow out of their myopic narcissism is job one for any parent..

Most children do with guidance heavy or not.


You are not yet a Grandfather.
One day when you are perhaps you will understand why I answered post as I did.
A statement of black and white facts on 13year olds does not in any way cover the varying personalities of all children.
Your black and white outlook may work for you and your children but that does not mean you can apply it to all.

Arkady

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all kids are unique and should be treated as such. what works for one kid doesnt work for another, every day is unique and you learn something new so you adpapt as it comes. to take a way a childs uniqueness robbs them of the chance to become something we all need, which is indentity.

Everything is bad including me
But being bad is good policy
Reverend Horton Heat

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No child is unique.  The become unique, but that only comes with adulthood.  Kids are herd animals, primarily.   Getting them to the point where they can leave the herd, and be unique is the challenge.  Far too many don't.

The dress the same, the talk the same, they do the same things, they are all certain that they are unique and special snowflakes.

There is a reason why we can study childhood development.  It's because the similarities in children are huge, and well documented.

Moooo.

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if he's trying to kill himself, then he's not serious. If he were serious he would be dead by now...
Nobody is worth that kind of drama, if he wants to die I'd tell him to head out. What he wants is for everybody to have a big emotional breakdown, so I just wouldn;t ablige him.... and i'm not just talking cuz i've had to deal with people like this before.
Jerome,
I think children do have different personalities, but because the majority of behavior is learned, most people just pick up on what everybody else at school is doing. Deep down I think they have different tastes, they're just too ashamed to admit it because they've learned what is and isn't "cool". I don't like to think of myself as a herd animal,  but even I'll admit I'm no grown up yet.... even if for circumstances beyond my control i had to grow up a little faster than most kids these days.
Being 'unique' these days also seems to be a form of following the crowd. You either do everything everybody else is doing to look cool, or you automatically NEVER do what anybody else is doing because you think it makes you cool....people should just do what they want, and if somebody else does it thats cool, but if they dont thats ok too. SOme things everybody does because its a fad, but some things are done by everybody because it just makes sense....like chocolate ice cream.

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i am amazed this topic is still going.
i agree with the last post the Jerome posted.
we should keep the herd togther or they will get out of control and start dictating things to adults, the people that are suppose to be rearing them.
Oh yeah, they have started that already havnt they?
20 years time from now the world will be a worse place to live

I might write a song about this if I remember

Ken

ye get some that are cut out for the job and others just get by from pretending

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last_rebel wrote:

if he's trying to kill himself, then he's not serious. If he were serious he would be dead by now...
Nobody is worth that kind of drama, if he wants to die I'd tell him to head out. What he wants is for everybody to have a big emotional breakdown, so I just wouldn;t ablige him.... and i'm not just talking cuz i've had to deal with people like this before.
Jerome,
I think children do have different personalities, but because the majority of behavior is learned, most people just pick up on what everybody else at school is doing. Deep down I think they have different tastes, they're just too ashamed to admit it because they've learned what is and isn't "cool". I don't like to think of myself as a herd animal,  but even I'll admit I'm no grown up yet.... even if for circumstances beyond my control i had to grow up a little faster than most kids these days.
Being 'unique' these days also seems to be a form of following the crowd. You either do everything everybody else is doing to look cool, or you automatically NEVER do what anybody else is doing because you think it makes you cool....people should just do what they want, and if somebody else does it thats cool, but if they dont thats ok too. SOme things everybody does because its a fad, but some things are done by everybody because it just makes sense....like chocolate ice cream.

I have no doubt that you will grow up to be a wholly unique adult.  Children are herd animals for a lot of reasons.  Biologically speaking, it's safer for kids to hang together than not.   Emotionally speaking, children push boundaries (and should push boundaries) as they grow to independence.  This is the source of %99 of the "My parent's don't understand me!" laments, and why they cling to their friends who "get them" so desperately.

They're looking for validation that their emotional outbursts against the boundaries their parents set are legitimate.   As a parent, the worst thing you can do is confirm that.  I have taught my oldest since she was 12 that all the emotial drama she can come up with is pretty normal for teenager, and that teenagers are pretty well understood animals.  That made her mad, but over time, she came to see it's true.  She's 18 now, and has grown into a mostly responsible young lady.

Someday we'll win this thing...

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what!!! This is the life of a thirteen year old! WHAT! I am going to be SO SO miserable!
is it true? This you tell me? And I thought being a pre teen sucked!!!!!!!!

*sniff sniff*

PEACE

EVERYONE'S LOOKIN' AT ME WEIRD, BOB.

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i still disagree, i think all kids are different, some walk at 15 months some walk at 18 months, some talk early some talk late. some pee the bed till there 10, some stop as soon as their out of diapers.  we become" herd animals". that is something the school teaches them,atleast here in america. when they come out of the womb its mom and dad and thats who there a attached, everyone else is just a stranger. my little girl runs away from other little kids as does my son. though it it is good for them to "hang "with other kids most of them are introverts, so hanging out with other kids or peole is painful.
i think it totally dedends on the kid.

Everything is bad including me
But being bad is good policy
Reverend Horton Heat

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rockerchick wrote:

when I turned 13 my parents started raging on me about everything.
I cant get them to shut up!
Some how every thing that's wrong is my falt.
And thay dont trust me anymore.
anyone els having this problem?
Any solutions?
you're rebel rocker,
        elora

When you are 13 you want what you think is best for you.  When you are a parent you want what you think is best for your children.  Unfortunately the two points of view are seldom compatible.  I have a 14 year old son who is the most sensible and responsible guy for his age that I know... except when he isn't!  It amazes and scares me that I can see so much of myself in him at that age and then I look around at my house and the things in it and my wife of 14 years and I realise that I probably shouldn't really worry so much.

x

I'm the son of rage and love