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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Chords in a progression - how often strictly from the key?]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>StranSongs thank you for the information on modal music but I didn&#039;t ask the question as I was already aware of what it was you can include druid love songs,raga,any chant,or Islamic call to worship,north American Indian rain ceremonies,African work songs just to name a few more including dulcimer solos <img src="https://www.chordie.com/forum/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 13:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Chords in a progression - how often strictly from the key?]]></title>
			<link>https://www.chordie.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=81349#p81349</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I think this is a modal piece.</p><p>Most early Irish music is modal, in other words the tune is all. What is important is what you hear, not what you believe you should be playing. </p><p>The accompaniment that is played is played as the tune decrees, and the tune will often trip through chords rapidly as though they were melody notes. This example feels a bit like that.</p><p>Russell, modal music can include chord changes. We tend to focus on the chords and the note is less important. For instance in bluegrass and blues the chord pattern is all - you can almost smell where the tune is going to end up. This wouldn&#039;t be the case with modal forms. It&#039;s a key reason why Irish music sounds Irish. </p><p>There are interminable debates over how to accompany Irish music - check this one out about the problems of playing guitar in Irish trad music <a href="http://www.thesession.org/discussions/display/4119/comments#comment84638">http://www.thesession.org/discussions/d … mment84638</a> .</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (StranSongs)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 12:04:01 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Even the blues guys and their dom7ths are generally in key.</p><p>We tend to speak in terms of triads when we talk about chords.&nbsp; The major and the minors.&nbsp; &nbsp;But the same rules apply for 7ths as well.&nbsp; While the triad appropriate for the V is a major chord, the 7th chord appropriate for the V is a dominant 7.</p><p>Its still that good old I IV V progression, but in this case, it&#039;s done with 7ths rather than triads.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (jerome.oneil)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 20:38:04 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Chords in a progression - how often strictly from the key?]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>pgibbons8</p><p>how often are chords taken from the key ?</p><p>well, that depends on your music taste</p><p>if you have a pop sensibility then most songs are going to stick fairly rigorously to the&nbsp; expected chords</p><p>blues and blues rock have there own variations (eg dominant sevenths and a couple of others)&nbsp; but don&#039;t otherwise depart much from the formulas</p><p>however Jazz and many &#039;experimental&#039;&nbsp; musicians tend to play fast&nbsp; and loose with the rules (sometimes in the pursuit of what is a fairly atonal noise). </p><p>usually when I mess around with chord progressions I stick to the key. i have sometimes&nbsp; thought of adding non key chords however in my experience theres plenty of scope for tunesmithing within the key. </p><br /><p>j</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 20:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Chords in a progression - how often strictly from the key?]]></title>
			<link>https://www.chordie.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=81299#p81299</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>ozmoid wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Theory is not so strict as we all might think. <img src="https://www.chordie.com/forum/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /> It is simply a way to describe what we are doing musically in a common language.</p><p>How do we get away from a &quot;strict&quot; key? You can <em>modulate</em> (essentially changing keys) within a song, and you can also <em>borrow</em> related chords into your progression.</p><p>In the Beatles&#039; <span class="bbu">I Feel Fine</span> (key of G), The chorus runs G - Bm - <strong>C</strong> - D on the first line, and G-Bm - <strong>Am</strong> - D on the second. Since the Am is the relative minor of C, we say the chord is <em>borrowed</em>.</p></blockquote></div><p>Am is in key for G major.&nbsp; It&#039;s the II.&nbsp; Modulation and borrowing are all well and good, but I Feel Fine, is actually in G, and those chords, well, fit fine.&nbsp; <img src="https://www.chordie.com/forum/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (jerome.oneil)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 16:45:02 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Chords in a progression - how often strictly from the key?]]></title>
			<link>https://www.chordie.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=81294#p81294</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Theory is not so strict as we all might think. <img src="https://www.chordie.com/forum/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /> It is simply a way to describe what we are doing musically in a common language.</p><p>How do we get away from a &quot;strict&quot; key? You can <em>modulate</em> (essentially changing keys) within a song, and you can also <em>borrow</em> related chords into your progression.</p><p>In the Beatles&#039; <span class="bbu">I Feel Fine</span> (key of G), The chorus runs G - Bm - <strong>C</strong> - D on the first line, and G-Bm - <strong>Am</strong> - D on the second. Since the Am is the relative minor of C, we say the chord is <em>borrowed</em>.</p><p>In <span class="bbu">Cry Baby Cry</span>, the verse runs down as Em - EmM7 - Em7 - Em6 and lands on C7. That C7 (which we have all head a million times) will never sound so &quot;twangy&quot; to your ear as it does coming at the end of that Em run, falling off the C# in the Em6. (Try substituting a C#°7 for the Em6... same notes: E-G-B-C#. <img src="https://www.chordie.com/forum/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /> )</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 14:09:04 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>You are both right. The song seems to float around the chord/key of A minor, but the riff that goes right through it is the notes D, C, A; G, C, A.<br />It would just about be possible to play the chords Dm, C, Am; G, C, Am and the vocal would still fit. These chords all fall within the key of A minor.<br />The test is to play along and see how it feels. Instead of the Dm, it may sound better with Aminor sus4. Instead of the G it may be possible to play Am7.<br />Songs in this style are difficult to pin down meaningfully to standard chord progressions. It sounded better for me to keep on an Am chord and play the 4ths and 7ths.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 07:30:17 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>pgibbons welcome to Chordie I listenend to the song first its a quarter tone out of 440 (standard pitch) and second the key is Amin the notes your hearing are not chord changes but notes played within the A minor chord (d c a g c a) I do not hear any chord changes I believe that this is concidered modal as I was able to&nbsp; play an Ami chord thruout the melody <img src="https://www.chordie.com/forum/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /> (but I have been known to be wrong on occasions) <img src="https://www.chordie.com/forum/img/smilies/lol.png" width="15" height="15" alt="lol" /></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 03:42:34 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hi!&nbsp; I was wondering - how often are chords in a songs taken strictly from the key that it&#039;s in?&nbsp; For example:</p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O49gt5f0hNc&amp;feature=PlayList&amp;p=D83738FC6C8E4E19&amp;playnext=1&amp;playnext_from=PL&amp;index=5">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O49gt5f0 … mp;index=5</a></p><p>You have to scroll to about 40 seconds in to get to the song (ignore the propaganda).</p><p>I hear D-C-A and then G-C-A.&nbsp; But I hear them all as major, and one of the chords would have to be minor (I think it&#039;s in C major?).</p><p>An answer to this question would be greatly appreciated!&nbsp; Thx!</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (pgibbons8)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 00:17:09 +0000</pubDate>
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