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Re: American Idol 9: Musicians' Perspective?

null@example.com (sinkybhoy) — Fri, 26 Mar 2010 20:52:25 +0000

I only watch the first few episoes of the UK and US versions to get a laugh at the crackpots who think they can sell ten million albums and take over the world. Then it is back to the real world of listening to amazing tunes and struggling to play them.

cheers

sinkybhoy

ps. cheers for the hello zurf

Re: American Idol 9: Musicians' Perspective?

null@example.com (mekidsmom) — Fri, 26 Mar 2010 11:10:08 +0000

wlbaye wrote:

Mkm
You better get over fear of singing in front of others, because the longer you play guitar your family will start thinking hey she's not too bad. They will first ask you to play a few songs at a barbeque and then it will be a wedding. Then your friends will want you to play at some weird gigs. It's gonna happen

One of my weirdest,
My mother inlaw is a Norwegian and has a friend that is also and they have an annual Lefse making party. They also make homeade wine. I was asked to play while they had dinner and later made lefse. Alot of wine was consumed by all and my music went over too good.
My sister inlaw didn't know I could play so well and got a little too huggy and ended up having to get carried home. Lefse making is very messy with all the flour used and all the hugging ,I still had flour in the all hard to get places on my guitar for years
Lefse is Yummy
And if your audience drinks enuff Homebrew, "You Can Be A Star"

LOL! Good story Wayne! I did the voice lessons in high school... which came along with a LOT of short choir solos... solo singing competitions in front of judges... singing in a couple weddings (one of which I got paid a whopping $25 but that was a LOT for a 16 year old!)... pushes to do certain songs at Kareokie... and of it all I enjoyed singing "Opera" songs the best. I see what happens when my dad gets his guitar out at the campfire and I am prepared for the onslaught this coming summer because I know he's going to tell me to bring mine with me or hand me his after about 3 songs! I think I'll handle the campfires alright (as long as I also have a few beers in me) but I'm not so sure about playing during a Lefse making party! LOL! Thanks for the heads up and the encouragement!

papatom wrote:

...Which brings me back to American Idol. Give these kids enough of a false sense of superstardom before they have even played a live gig and they will NEVER be inspired to create a great piece of music.

That's just it! They fast track these kids into the false sense of superstardom and tell them what to do so they can make money (not the kids that is)... and if they're lucky they get a great deal that DOES fit with their voice and singing style... but more likely than not they just get run over by a train when all is said and done. They aren't inspired to create great music... they are inspired to do as they're told to win and pray for a record deal. It's sad. Gone are the days (yes, I'm too young to know the days I'm talking about but I've seen enough "good ole" movies about REAL stars to know) when you could walk into a producing studio and beg them to listen to your music and hope the liked YOUR music and actually become a star on your OWN merit and abilities!

Re: American Idol 9: Musicians' Perspective?

null@example.com (Old Doll) — Thu, 25 Mar 2010 23:07:31 +0000

Lena, I think everyone in the South should apologise for foisting Jedward on us ; )

Sweet suffering divine Strans ! The talent we have on this wee Island, and we foist Gedward to the world ???.

Re: American Idol 9: Musicians' Perspective?

null@example.com (KAP54) — Thu, 25 Mar 2010 20:34:23 +0000

I don't watch the show until it gets near the finals. I gotta say that this years group of finalists are not impressive at all other then Christal Bowersox. The girl can sing.
She has hinted that next week she will be without her guitar I hope it turns out for her cause if I was a betting man my money would be on her.

Re: American Idol 9: Musicians' Perspective?

null@example.com (tubatooter1940) — Thu, 25 Mar 2010 18:33:58 +0000

I played a Mobile, Alabama night club in the 70's for two long years called Club Skylark that held a regular Wednesday night talent show. The only prize was $100 to win and that was big bucks in those days. My band had to back all contestants singing whatever song they wanted. If we failed to make them sound good, we got mucho grief.
It was a chore and most contestants were so bad they creeped us out. Once in a while we lucked up on somebody who was good.
To this day I can't listen to a talent show without cringing.
My wife and her sister love American Idol and phone each other after each contestant sings. That's a good time for me to retire to my office and go online.
I can't blame the Idol contestants for wanting to "make it" and Idol seems to be a fast track to fame and fortune. People who can play and sing well are so lucky and have big fun doing it.
I paid huge dues starting out. My hugely talented kids didn't want to make music after they saw what I went through playing rock and country hits for a living.
Idol contestants with big dreams and that burning desire for fame, I would rather avoid. I prefer to help young players who do it for fun.
toots

Re: American Idol 9: Musicians' Perspective?

null@example.com (PapaTom) — Thu, 25 Mar 2010 14:50:35 +0000

>>>Papa,

It's just cheap entertainment and all but a few have come and gone.<<<<

That's what I would think; however, even the worst of them seem to eventually pop up on my clock radio one morning with a "new hit." Having been there, I understand that a record deal is far from a guaranteed career, but I also understand that it used to - and SHOULD - take a lot of work to get to even THAT point.

If American Idol weren't the ONLY thing going on in the music industry, I would agree that it's just cheap, harmless entertainment. But, for nine years, this show has been setting the bar for aspiring young artists - and setting it very low, unfortunately.

Re: American Idol 9: Musicians' Perspective?

null@example.com (StranSongs) — Thu, 25 Mar 2010 13:00:31 +0000

Brian Cowell is good . . . . . if he likes you and you'll do anything to make him millions. The shows are just ways for him to make more millions doing the auditions he would have to do free otherwise. Time is money. Actually I find myself agreeing with him most of the time.

The UK version of this is something I have to watch or end up with no family life. The girls and herself always end up with a crush on one of the guys and it can be quite hilarious when they get put out. Last time I got caught on laughing as he walked off stage and was banished to the back room ( which is where I keep the fav. guitar).

BTW did you guys hear that there was a successfull internet campaign to keep the last winner off the top of the Xmas charts in the UK.

Lena, I think everyone in the South should apologise for foisting Jedward on us ; )

Re: American Idol 9: Musicians' Perspective?

null@example.com (Linusguitar) — Thu, 25 Mar 2010 12:44:01 +0000

ok I was just watching Crystal Bowersox on the top 11, and MILEY CYRUS was giving her advice! Miley can't sing half of what Crystal can. What a disney joke

Re: American Idol 9: Musicians' Perspective?

null@example.com (Linusguitar) — Thu, 25 Mar 2010 12:38:56 +0000

I agree with you guys, but a guy like Adam Lambert is an exception. He's got an INCREDIBLE set of vocals, better that 98% percent of recording artists today. However, I that doesn't mean I like him No glam rockers for me.
It's interesting, but relatively untalented.

Re: American Idol 9: Musicians' Perspective?

null@example.com (wlbaye) — Thu, 25 Mar 2010 12:33:45 +0000

Papa,

It's just cheap entertainment and all but a few have come and gone. If you aint got it you aint got it and most of them have been just average Karaoke singers.

Some are dedicated musicians, but most were singing in the shower and then decided to go try out

Re: American Idol 9: Musicians' Perspective?

null@example.com (PapaTom) — Thu, 25 Mar 2010 12:23:49 +0000

...Which brings me back to American Idol. Give these kids enough of a false sense of superstardom before they have even played a live gig and they will NEVER be inspired to create a great piece of music.

Re: American Idol 9: Musicians' Perspective?

null@example.com (geoaguiar) — Thu, 25 Mar 2010 11:44:49 +0000

wlbaye wrote:

And if your audience drinks enuff Homebrew, "You Can Be A Star"

A truer statement you won't find......

Re: American Idol 9: Musicians' Perspective?

null@example.com (wlbaye) — Thu, 25 Mar 2010 11:28:49 +0000

Mkm

You better get over fear of singing in front of others, because the longer you play guitar your family will start thinking hey she's not too bad. They will first ask you to play a few songs at a barbeque and then it will be a wedding. Then your friends will want you to play at some weird gigs. It's gonna happen

One of my weirdest,

My mother inlaw is a Norwegian and has a friend that is also and they have an annual Lefse making party. They also make homeade wine. I was asked to play while they had dinner and later made lefse. Alot of wine was consumed by all and my music went over too good.

My sister inlaw didn't know I could play so well and got a little too huggy and ended up having to get carried home. Lefse making is very messy with all the flour used and all the hugging ,I still had flour in the all hard to get places on my guitar for years

Lefse is Yummy

And if your audience drinks enuff Homebrew, "You Can Be A Star"

Re: American Idol 9: Musicians' Perspective?

null@example.com (mekidsmom) — Thu, 25 Mar 2010 10:39:42 +0000

I liked the show a few years ago... not so much now. I enjoy watching the beginning... when the judges have to see 200 people in a day and pick a couple to move on. It's good entertainment to see how horrible some people are that actually think they can sing. On another note, it's also sad to see how good some people are and they get booted off before they've really had a chance all because they're nervous. My husband says, "you're better than most of those people, you could do that!" ... I say... NOPE, I couldn't. I've sang a few times in front of people live, my knees knock and my throat closes up I do ok but not good "enough". After the beginning I watch a couple more rounds of it... seeing some that made it through that I thought were horrible (wondering why they made it and some of the others didn't, although I know it's just because they had a good story that makes for good TV and not much to do with their singing)... then I pretty much quit watching... it's usually about the time that they start getting told they need to step it up YET they have no way to do that just standing in the middle of a stage by themselves having been stripped of their guitar and half of their self esteem. It makes me think, "that's probably what it's like to be a famous singer with top 10 albums out... give up everything to do what the monsters at the top of the food chain think you should do to SELL albums"... no thanks. Towards the end of the show's season sometimes I watch again just to see who's left that they've been able to turn into a really good singer via the $$ and mold that they were able to fit into. This show reminds me why I'd rather sing in the bathroom than on stage! Simon is a jerk... but I guess it makes for "good tv" since the show is still running... just not good for me.

Re: American Idol 9: Musicians' Perspective?

null@example.com (Old Doll) — Wed, 24 Mar 2010 22:29:10 +0000

I cannot watch these programmes anymore,

I get to scared for the contestants as the wait for the "Judges" comments..

I was at a party recently here in Dublin. I heard fantastic singers, some even better then some of these people on tv,
and not a one of any age wishing to be famous. They Sing and play for the love of entertainment. These shows i feel are about Money/ power/ and greed.
After watching "Susan Boyle" here on Xfactor was enough for me.. Americans apparently love her as i do.
But her vunerability pains me somehow.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ldw9xoHziuo

Old Doll.