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			<title><![CDATA[Re: "F" chord is now outlawed]]></title>
			<link>https://www.chordie.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=126126#p126126</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Welcome to the forums Pam_ela.&nbsp; There are certain chords that frustrate all guitar players somewhere along the line.&nbsp; My big problem chord to get over was D.&nbsp; Then F.&nbsp; I continue to think that B chord (the one using the A shape with a barre) is evil and for mutants only.&nbsp; </p><p>- Zurf</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2012 12:14:33 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: "F" chord is now outlawed]]></title>
			<link>https://www.chordie.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=126116#p126116</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>oh I thought i was the only one that avoided the F&nbsp; .. nice to see and hear all the advice ... thanks so much</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2012 06:54:52 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: "F" chord is now outlawed]]></title>
			<link>https://www.chordie.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=126031#p126031</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Roger Guppy wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>beamer wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>MB or anyone else for that matter, I just posted up all my basic stuff on FB..</p></blockquote></div><p>......but you forgot to post your Fb link so we cannot find it....</p><p>Rpger</p></blockquote></div><p>oops.&nbsp; <a href="http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1211582282">http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1211582282</a>&nbsp; go to my pictures file and look for guitar stuff.&nbsp; Everything i Scanned is in there.&nbsp; look for the stretches for the fourth finger.&nbsp; This lesson comes from &quot;ARLEN ROTHS METAL METHOD&quot;&nbsp; GREAT BOOK, <br /><a href="http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&amp;field-keywords=arlen+roths+metal+method">http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss? … tal+method</a></p><p>I xeroxed every page of it back in the day before scanners.&nbsp; &nbsp;This exercise will make your pinky burn for a while.&nbsp; I originally had all this stuff in step folders, to work people up to it.&nbsp; I then let them have a copy of the Arlen book.&nbsp; We stuck to four chord keg rock and beach / chapen stuff after that.......</p><p>Oh to have had Chordie and you tube back then.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2012 08:28:49 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: "F" chord is now outlawed]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>beamer wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>MB or anyone else for that matter, I just posted up all my basic stuff on FB..</p></blockquote></div><p>......but you forgot to post your Fb link so we cannot find it....</p><p>Rpger</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (Roger Guppy)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2012 07:54:56 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: "F" chord is now outlawed]]></title>
			<link>https://www.chordie.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=126006#p126006</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>MB or anyone else for that matter, I just posted up all my basic stuff on FB.&nbsp; I have taught many people with, an they usually go way beyound my abilitys when we are done.&nbsp; But look for streches for the fourth finger, in the photoes.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2012 22:23:36 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: "F" chord is now outlawed]]></title>
			<link>https://www.chordie.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=126004#p126004</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>M.B. wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>So Roger, is it the case that over time, doing the kind of exercises you describe, I&#039;ll be able to not only get greater strength in my pinky, but be able to separate it farther away from my index finger?</p></blockquote></div><p>MB,, for spreadability, you can use wadded up paper with masking tape or a raquet or squash ball.&nbsp; Just incert itbetween your fingers and use the mussel to go back and fourth, and let it sit there and slowly strech your tendons.&nbsp; oh and check your mail Ill send you a pinkey excercise that will really help in addition to what Rodger has told ya.</p><p>edit&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br />Ok this mailer wont let me do an attachment,&nbsp; If you would like this and some more, please e-mail me at beamerstrumpet@gmail.com,, Ill send you back some great finger excercises.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2012 21:56:24 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://www.chordie.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=125989#p125989</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>So Roger, is it the case that over time, doing the kind of exercises you describe, I&#039;ll be able to not only get greater strength in my pinky, but be able to separate it farther away from my index finger?</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (M.B.)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2012 17:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: "F" chord is now outlawed]]></title>
			<link>https://www.chordie.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=125985#p125985</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Again I would treat it as a seperate exercise. Play four beats of E then drop the pinky on to make it E7 for 4 beats and repeat over and over. As it gets easier, drop to 2 beats on each and then 1 beat. It will build up strength in the pinky and get it used to dropping in the right place.</p><p>Roger</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (Roger Guppy)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2012 16:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: "F" chord is now outlawed]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Roger Guppy wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>M.B. wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>For me, the F seems to be easier to do than a Bm--my nemesis!</p></blockquote></div><p>Ignore the barre finger and think of the F as an E played with different fingers. Move those fingers playing the E up one string to the Am position (so you are actually playing Bbm) and practice the change back and forth. You should soon find that the Bbm becomes natural enough to play independantly and you can then move it up the fretboard for the Bm, Cm etc.</p><p>Roger</p></blockquote></div><p>Thanks for the good advice, Roger; I&#039;m working on that. Now, can you give me an exercise to get separation with my pinkie when doing an E7? My little finger doesn&#039;t want to separate from from my ring finger, and my muscles don&#039;t seem to work to get it to move away. </p><p>Thank!</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2012 13:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: "F" chord is now outlawed]]></title>
			<link>https://www.chordie.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=125977#p125977</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Man when I was learning my chords F did give me a hard time, first time my friend showed me the major and minor forms with the Emaj standard shape, that was it!&nbsp; or just play the root 5th. 2 fingers is all it takes all the way up and down the neck.&nbsp; As for B its a root 5th&nbsp; (index on A string 2nd fret and 3rd finger on D string 4th fret)&nbsp; and Bm is the full bar chord)&nbsp; powerchords are great you all and pretty easy once you can get your head around it.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2012 09:40:19 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>M.B. wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>For me, the F seems to be easier to do than a Bm--my nemesis!</p></blockquote></div><p>Ignore the barre finger and think of the F as an E played with different fingers. Move those fingers playing the E up one string to the Am position (so you are actually playing Bbm) and practice the change back and forth. You should soon find that the Bbm becomes natural enough to play independantly and you can then move it up the fretboard for the Bm, Cm etc.</p><p>Roger</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (Roger Guppy)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2012 07:50:10 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>auxi wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Good to have you joining us, Steelystrings. I totally agree with what you said. My hands were so twisted and cramped the first time I tried a simple C chord, but practice makes perfect. The best advice I ever got was to not cheat on my F. (But I&#039;m a stanch rule follower <img src="https://www.chordie.com/forum/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /> )</p></blockquote></div><p>I began as a cheater and gradually worked my way up to a barre F. At first, all I could manage was an F#7. Then I began to try to do an F where you use&nbsp; your index finger to fret the B and high E. After at least a year, I finally began to try to do a fully barred F. For me, the F seems to be easier to do than a Bm--my nemesis!</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2012 01:31:33 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>craig23 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Breakin the law, breakin the law</p></blockquote></div><p>Love the Priest quote. lol</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2012 01:14:27 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hi all i am new to the site, about 3 weeks, I just went from 2010 to 2012 and read all the post&#039;s on the F cord. WOW 2 years and people are still talking about that cord. How intersting it is to read older post&#039;s and compare them to the new post. Really have not changed much. It must be a GREAT chord if people are still chating about it. My brother-teacher made me play a G, F,&amp;G over &amp; over while he practiced his finger picking.That was 30 years ago. Really great to hear people still playing the F!<br />Rick</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2012 00:45:33 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Good to have you joining us, Steelystrings. I totally agree with what you said. My hands were so twisted and cramped the first time I tried a simple C chord, but practice makes perfect. The best advice I ever got was to not cheat on my F. (But I&#039;m a stanch rule follower <img src="https://www.chordie.com/forum/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /> )</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2012 00:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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