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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Tibernius wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>jerome.oneil wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>You&#039;ll play the chord progression as such.&nbsp; Chords only change on the beginnings of the measures.&nbsp; &nbsp;I&#039;ve included the notes in the key of E major as an example.&nbsp; You should use the chords appropriate for your favorite key.</p><p>One&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; I&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;E<br />Two&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; I&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;E<br />Three&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; I&nbsp; &nbsp; E<br />Four&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;I&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;E<br />Five&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; IV&nbsp; &nbsp;A<br />Six&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;IV&nbsp; &nbsp;A<br />Seven&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;I&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;E<br />Eight&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;I&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;E<br />Nine&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;V&nbsp; &nbsp; B<br />Ten&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; IV&nbsp; &nbsp;A<br />Eleven&nbsp; &nbsp; I&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;E<br />Twelve&nbsp; &nbsp; I&nbsp; &nbsp; E</p><p>Once you play it, you&#039;ll immediately recognize it.&nbsp; It&#039;s the basis for literally thousands of songs.</p></blockquote></div><p>There&#039;s also a version which ends with:</p><p>Twelve&nbsp; V&nbsp; B</p><p>The rest is the same.</p></blockquote></div><p>You could do that as a grace note into the first verse, but I think that would leave the progression pretty unresolved if you ended on the V.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 22:12:56 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>jerome.oneil wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>You&#039;ll play the chord progression as such.&nbsp; Chords only change on the beginnings of the measures.&nbsp; &nbsp;I&#039;ve included the notes in the key of E major as an example.&nbsp; You should use the chords appropriate for your favorite key.</p><p>One&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; I&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;E<br />Two&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; I&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;E<br />Three&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; I&nbsp; &nbsp; E<br />Four&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;I&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;E<br />Five&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; IV&nbsp; &nbsp;A<br />Six&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;IV&nbsp; &nbsp;A<br />Seven&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;I&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;E<br />Eight&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;I&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;E<br />Nine&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;V&nbsp; &nbsp; B<br />Ten&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; IV&nbsp; &nbsp;A<br />Eleven&nbsp; &nbsp; I&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;E<br />Twelve&nbsp; &nbsp; I&nbsp; &nbsp; E</p><p>Once you play it, you&#039;ll immediately recognize it.&nbsp; It&#039;s the basis for literally thousands of songs.</p></blockquote></div><p>There&#039;s also a version which ends with:</p><p>Twelve&nbsp; V&nbsp; B</p><p>The rest is the same.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Oh ok, Thanks tons Jerome <img src="https://www.chordie.com/forum/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /><br /> Im gonna copy paste and print this sheet.... E is one of my favorite keys actually so thats nice. Finally learned the nashville numbers too so now I know&nbsp; what your talking about. <br /> Thanks again,<br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; LR</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:36:15 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Well done, Jerome!</p><p>It took me years of working out and getting things wrong to get what you just posted.</p><p>Isn&#039;t the web is just wonderful! I learnt about pentatonics from crumpled photocopies ( does anyone remember the shiny paper they used to come on !) of articles in music mags back in the seventies. They were passed from learner to learner during the &quot;boom&quot; in guitar playing during the punk years. We&#039;d copy them out and practice till our finger tips glowed.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 09:35:50 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Alright. </p><p>A 12 bar blues is a I IV V chord progression played over 12 bars.</p><p>A bar for our purposes, is one measure of 4/4 time.&nbsp; You count common time as thus.</p><p>One Two Three Four<br />One Two Three Four</p><p>In tempo.&nbsp; Because we are playing 12 bars, we will want to count our progression like this.</p><p>One Two Three Four<br />Two Two Three Four<br />Three Two Three Four<br />Four Two Three Four<br />Five Two Three Four</p><p>...</p><p>Eleven Two Three Four<br />Twelve Two Three Four</p><p>Simply strum on each beat for right now.</p><p>You&#039;ll play the chord progression as such.&nbsp; Chords only change on the beginnings of the measures.&nbsp; &nbsp;I&#039;ve included the notes in the key of E major as an example.&nbsp; You should use the chords appropriate for your favorite key.</p><p>One&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; I&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;E<br />Two&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; I&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;E<br />Three&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; I&nbsp; &nbsp; E<br />Four&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;I&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;E<br />Five&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; IV&nbsp; &nbsp;A<br />Six&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;IV&nbsp; &nbsp;A<br />Seven&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;I&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;E<br />Eight&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;I&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;E<br />Nine&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;V&nbsp; &nbsp; B<br />Ten&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; IV&nbsp; &nbsp;A<br />Eleven&nbsp; &nbsp; I&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;E<br />Twelve&nbsp; &nbsp; I&nbsp; &nbsp; E</p><p>Once you play it, you&#039;ll immediately recognize it.&nbsp; It&#039;s the basis for literally thousands of songs.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 00:14:06 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Just about any song you care to name from the 1930&#039;s on that has the word &#039;Blues&#039; in the title is (or is derived from) a 12-bar blues.&nbsp; If you heard it, you would recongnize it immediately.&nbsp; Clapton&#039;s &#039;Before You Accuse Me&#039; (lead track on &#039;Unplugged&#039;) is a classic twelve bar blues.&nbsp; ZZ Top&#039;s &#039;LaGrange&#039; also fits the 12-bar blues pattern, at a faster tempo.</p><p>I don&#039;t know what happened there, I had &quot;Tush&quot; playing in my head, but &quot;La Grange&quot; is what spilled out my fingers.&nbsp; Sorry about that.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 23:15:51 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I was reading this thread.... very helpful stuff. Jerome, I bet your an awesome teacher, you always remind of how much I don&#039;t know. I do know this &#039;pattern 4&#039; scale, and found you could move it around. Sometimes I&#039;ll slide down to some bluesy strumming....<br /> Maybe you could give me a quick crash course in what exactly 12 bars means??? I don&#039;t know much music theory (well I know a little but all by the wrong names), and timings something I just kind of &#039;feel&#039;, I&#039;ve been told my timing&#039;s good but I wouldn&#039;t know how to really count it off.</p><br /><p>&nbsp; &nbsp;Doc, I bought a Guitar World Legends special edition magazine with Billy Gibbons the other day and it had an interesting article about the history of blues music. They say according to an old blues song that &#039;the blues came from texas loping like a mule&#039;. No one knows exactly where they came from, but given the musical influence of African slaves with instruments like the mandolin and banjo (which can actually be found in early blues music I found out), I guess that had alot to do with it. I also found out that the earliest forms of &#039;hillbilly&#039; music (Hank Williams Jimmy Rodgers kind of stuff) was only seperated from the blues by the race of the singer. That the patterns and structures were actually very similar.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 21:20:21 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>oh and forgot to say u dont play the 4th fret on the b on the way up</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 18:48:58 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>i&nbsp; play the pentatonic scale with a few exra notes calling it the blues pentatonic for example Am blues pentatonic would be - </p><p>E&nbsp; 5-8<br />A&nbsp; 5-6-7<br />D&nbsp; 5-7<br />G&nbsp; 5-7<br />B&nbsp; 4-5-8<br />E&nbsp; 5-8</p><p>and ont he way up it would be exactly the same only instead of playing 7-5 on the G ud play it 8-7-5</p><p>its nice to add the extra notes i think it sounds good and i practice it quite alot and also throw a jam track on and have a bit of a mess around with it<br /> please correct me if theres anything wrong all your info helps me out.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 18:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Altex,</p><p>Yes, I love using the blues scale below as well!&nbsp; The 6 and 7 transition note on A and G strings really makes it unique!&nbsp; </p><p>e - 5 &amp; 8<br />b - 5 &amp; 8<br />g - 5 &amp; 7 &amp; 8<br />d - 5 &amp; 7<br />a - 5 &amp; 6 &amp; 7<br />E - 5 &amp; 8</p><p>Does anyone know any guidelines for moving this scale up and down the neck like the minor pentatonic?&nbsp; Do you have to adjust it like you do with the minor pentatonics? ? or does it stay the same and you just have to move it up 2 frets for a whole tone and 1 fret for a 1/2 tone? <br />Thanks,<br />ssp3</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 08:25:51 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Nope.&nbsp; I&#039;m just a complete theory geek.&nbsp; I&#039;ve been playing music since I was in 5th grade, and grew up to be an engineer.&nbsp; I don&#039;t have a lot of time to &quot;figure stuff out&quot; so I took a little time to learn theory, which has saved me a ton of time when it gets down to actually playing the instrument.&nbsp; &nbsp;I also like to teach (taught at UW, and worked for Seattle Public Schools for a while) and I absolutely love kids, so this is a good outlet for me.&nbsp; It lets me share some knowledge, it lets me work out my theory geekisms, and it satisfies my engineering need to know why something works, rather than just knowing it does.</p><p>As far as the girl with the &#039;68 Gibson:&nbsp; &nbsp;Dude, I&#039;d never advocate violence in any form against any one, but dude!&nbsp; &nbsp;A &#039;68 Gibson Les Paul?&nbsp; Is there a statute of limitations on that?</p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://www.rocknrollvintage.com/prodimages/68&#039;%20Gibson%20Les%20Paul%20Custom.jpg" alt="http://www.rocknrollvintage.com/prodimages/68&amp;#039;%20Gibson%20Les%20Paul%20Custom.jpg" /></span></p><p>* droool *</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 16:28:16 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Jerome<br />You are the man I need, admiring AND envying your knowledge.<br />Are you a (semi- hobby-professional) like teaching music? In theory, I should now, today, working in Canada. In 1997, everything was ready to ship to South Africa to become generalist. They are allowed to perform a lot more things, like GASTROSCOPY. After working to improve my skills, I had a place open for me, giving the opportunity that you want to work in Australia, New Zealand and CANADA. But, just in between I met a girl, THE ONE WHO LEFT ME WHILE IN HOSPITAL 2005, AND ALSO THE ONE WHO THROW AWAY my Gibson Black Les Paul MADE in 1968, the FIRST YEAR of a new start. She is worth $$$$$ if all original, which I let replace by P-94, because I had already&nbsp; 1978 custom, so the value is now $$. Don&#039;t you have connections who are selling guitar parts? I don&#039;t know if they are PAF&#039;s.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 08:10:21 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>ssp3 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Hey these patterns are great!&nbsp; does anyone know or use the patterns for minor pentatonic that begin in the 5th string? I like to use these scales and go back and forth with major scales on my leads.&nbsp; I think it sounds good.&nbsp; Does anyone see any problems with that?<br />S</p></blockquote></div><p>It&#039;s all about intervals.&nbsp; The guitar is tuned to 4ths (it&#039;s a major 4th between strings, except for G -&gt; B, which is a 3rd), so you can start those patterns on any string except G, and you will *generally* be OK, as the intervals are the same.&nbsp; &nbsp;If you want to learn to play them from the D string, simply play a pentatonic staring on E to the D.&nbsp; This is the octave.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Whatever you play from there is a brand new pentatonic.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2007 18:06:52 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I am so glad to get such an impressing answers.<br />The reason of &quot;the existence&quot; of the blues, go back far away. Somewhere in an article I read that there still are black Africans, in different parts of Africa, where you can hear and learn a lot of their music. I&#039;ve been several&nbsp; (+-10) times to South Africa, you have ZULUS, XHOSA (Nelson Mandela is a XHOSA) and BUSHMEN (this should be a tribe for George W.)<br />If you are interested&nbsp; surf to <a href="http://www.africaguide.com">www.africaguide.com</a>, but I heard more than once music there. The way they sing and play, is amazing, best example: PAUL SIMON when he releasedalbum immensely popular Graceland, for which he won a Grammy. The album featured the ground breaking use of African rhythms and performers such as Ladysmith Black Mambazo, VERY popular in South Africa ISN&#039;T IT NADINE???. I think that blues is straight from the heart, but in the beginning, they were singing on the cotton fields, probably GOSPEL &amp; BLUES were developed more or less simultanious. Gospel was OK, because there they could sing now in public, and it was a must: going to Church. Blues: BLACK BETTY a big hit for Ram Jam, but written by Lead Belly. I have a big box, about: Sony 100 years music containg 26 CD&#039;s, and a must for music lovers. There are even songs, recorded in early 1900. Still a lot of money, for a lot of music. On <a href="http://www.amazon.com">www.amazon.com</a> you look for Sony 100 years of music. ONE OF THE BEST ALBUMS EVER MADE&nbsp; <br />giving you an idea about the evolution, all different kinds of music, going over Opera, Operette, Blues, Gospel, R&amp;B, Folk, Rock and Pop. See for yourself, but don&#039;t get an heartattack when you see the price. On the Amazon market $159.99 and brand new $296.99. I was very lucky to receive this box, as a &quot;relation&quot; gift, when still working. I wish I could share this with you.<br />My opinion about blues is identical to yours: STRAIGHT FROM THE HEART. But do you agree if I tell that this is the same for other songs? see WHITHOUT YOU, written and performed by BADFINGER, as a catchy, but still melancholic song, covered only a few months later by HARRY NILSSON, the song comes from real deep in his soul (I compare this a lot with &quot;A little help from my friends&quot; written and performed by the Beatles, BUT WHO REMEMBERS THE LONG CUTTING TO THE BONE CRY, in the Woodstock version by Joe Cocker?<br />I have the impression that a lot, maybe 50-75% of the songs (pop &amp; rock&quot; are Blues related.<br />You don&#039;t need a solo on guitar, minutes long, you need TO feel the music. If you don&#039;t, you may be a super guitarist, but you will always stay a robot, if you don&#039;t put a peace of you in that song.<br />Also a lot of producers are ruining a lot of songs, glad that we find a lot of bootlegs or outtakes, where you see the spirit again, and not &quot;good enough to use this version&quot;, but a cleaned up version caused by producers.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2007 10:27:43 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hey these patterns are great!&nbsp; does anyone know or use the patterns for minor pentatonic that begin in the 5th string? I like to use these scales and go back and forth with major scales on my leads.&nbsp; I think it sounds good.&nbsp; Does anyone see any problems with that?<br />S</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 00:17:43 +0000</pubDate>
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