Guitar chord forum - chordie — Don't Need AI

Re: Don't Need AI

null@example.com (Peatle Jville) — Tue, 17 Dec 2024 01:48:51 +0000

Good one Piri and Richard it is real interesting what you guys are putting up on here. These interaction have been good value thank you I just looked at the official Spotify top 40 most played songs in New Zealand for the last 18 months. Apart from Wham who I think was only a duo the rest are solo artists from what I can tell.. I suppose I should also say one of the songs was a duo with Lady Gaga and Bruno Mars. The Top 40 singles in New Zealand for last week are similar. On the You Tube New Zealand top 40 most played from the 6th to 12 th December there is a few more bands. Wham , Coldplay, NSYNC, Little River Band. I think listening habits might get a bit skewed at this time of year due to the Christmas season. The one constant through out human history I guess is what does an individual define as sound and what is noise. It always going to be blurry subject one persons music is another persons unwanted auditory experience. Do we need to experience music with our ears might sound like a stupid question or is it??Beethoven composed some of his most important works during the last 10 years of his life when he was quite unable to hear He even introduced the world to his most famous composition, the Ninth Symphony, after deafness had overtaken him
I will attach a link to a short vid to how some deaf people experience music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTWLoFuEvL4

Re: Don't Need AI

null@example.com (neophytte) — Mon, 16 Dec 2024 00:29:48 +0000

Grah1 wrote:

I then put a chord progression together .I must admit I hadnt noticed the similaritys you mentioned . Its interesting how a different pair of ears pick s up on different things .

This guy has a video with a number of songs with similar chord progressions, swapping the words to each other: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCr_RbeLUDg

Another "I stumbled upon this in YouTube" moment ...

EDIT

Peatle Jville wrote:

The trouble with AI for me is though it would improve my songwriting for sure it would also take away the reason I dabble in music and take away any satisfaction of creating something that represents me.

I saw something which echoed this sentiment on Facebook which was apparently a quote (but I'm para-phrasing here) that said something like: I was looking forward to AI doing all the mundane things like cleaning the house and doing the dishes, so I had more time to work on creative projects, instead of AI replacing my creative projects, leaving me more time to clean the house and do the dishes. - I don't have the words right, but hope it underlines the sentiment of the author!

Cheers

Richard

Re: Don't Need AI

null@example.com (Phill Williams) — Sun, 15 Dec 2024 11:29:59 +0000

Yes Pedr I saw that video this week, and that's the first time I've heard of that word too. Apparently it means stealing a bit of a song or two to make a new one without having to pay or give credit to the writers. Another con from American sheister lawyers!

Re: Don't Need AI

null@example.com (Peatle Jville) — Sun, 15 Dec 2024 06:53:28 +0000

Good one Piri. I find it annoying when I see a famous band touring putting on concerts that people go to see because of the bands name that don't have the original key members that made them famous in it anymore. If there is a few changes of personal that is ok but not when going to what should be called a cover band. I will attach a short 8 minute thing of YouTube about bands in recent years that I think most Chordians will find interesting something I didn't realised until I watched it very informative. BTW in another video this man put out I learnt about a word used by recording artists called "interpolation" which was a new word to me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_DjmtR0Xls

Re: Don't Need AI

null@example.com (Phill Williams) — Sat, 14 Dec 2024 11:21:47 +0000

I've also heard that top artistes have had to get back to live gigs to make money as records dont do it any more. Not such a bad thing until the artists you grew up loving dont have a voice anymore. Sad but true unfortunately. On YouTube there are some fantastic cover bands that sound almost like the original vocally but spot on instrumentaly.

Re: Don't Need AI

null@example.com (Peatle Jville) — Sat, 14 Dec 2024 04:09:54 +0000

Good on you Grah for showing us how AI can make a song lyric work. The trouble with AI for me is though it would improve my songwriting for sure it would also take away the reason I dabble in music and take away any satisfaction of creating something that represents me. The thing I think that ruins much of modern recordings is the way the production quantization on them is removing all the natural human nuances that my ears love. Everything tends to sound sanitized or mechanical to me. Like Phill I find modern music tends to sound the same. It all sounds so homogenized I think somewhere in recent times innovativeness like the Beatles had has disappeared. Maybe the powerful music moguls have manage to destroy that through wanting to lower the cost of recording. I suppose with modern streaming and the lack of people buying vinyl recordings there is not the financial return that there use to be for musicians and recording companies. I suppose Spotify and the like do extremely well financially out of it not the artists. I think its something like 80% of people access their music through streaming platforms making the platform rich not the artists. I have been told by many being a talented musician/producer is not the same as being good at music business. To me when I'm out and about in various shops and food and drink outlets hearing the music they play it all sounds formulaic and homogenized with this modern trend making it hard for me to hear any difference from one song to another. Who was it who said the road to musical hell is paved with Gold???? My other question would be in music who is making gold and who is been sold down the plug hole.??? The thing I think that makes the human mind better than AI at times is our minds can go of in different unexpected tangents making our creativity able to produce more punch than AI. I heard a muscian being interviewed a while back saying at gigs, they sometimes make more money on their merch embroidered hats and tea shirts than their music.

Re: Don't Need AI

null@example.com (Phill Williams) — Fri, 13 Dec 2024 11:11:42 +0000

Grah, all the biggest hits have themes or sound familiar to songs that have gone before, the punters like familiarity which is why a lot of 60s singles sound very similar to the previous single. And of course then as now the more a record sells the more money the record companies make, only it's Spotify or Amazon music and the like that make the big bucks not the writers, or AI...ha, ha, ha!
My son and daughter in law run a chippy, that's a fish and chip take away not a brothel, by the way. I was in there for a long while the other day and they had music from àlexa, after a while I had to ask "how long does this song last?" They replied "there's been around 10 songs since you came in." They all sounded exactly the same to me, and I think I have a good music ear.
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Re: Don't Need AI

null@example.com (Grah1) — Thu, 12 Dec 2024 19:03:38 +0000

No Phill I wrote the whole chorus then put it into the AI which then suggested a load of lyrics which I then sorted through and edited into verses which I felt appropriate I then put a chord progression together .I must admit I hadnt noticed the similaritys you mentioned . Its interesting how a different pair of ears pick s up on different things .
When I created this song I was reluctant to play it live but the response has been positive so I will include it in the set for a while .

Re: Don't Need AI

null@example.com (Phill Williams) — Thu, 12 Dec 2024 18:45:29 +0000

yep, came through loud and proud. nice rendition, i expect it's due to the chord progression but there are echo's of "if i were a carpenter" and the reference to "tide is high". did the AI write all the words and suggest the chord sequence? i like it though

Re: Don't Need AI

null@example.com (Grah1) — Thu, 12 Dec 2024 17:58:22 +0000

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qz8rpqAQgio try now Phill

Re: Don't Need AI

null@example.com (Phill Williams) — Thu, 12 Dec 2024 15:00:17 +0000

sorry Grah couldn't connect to the link

Re: Don't Need AI

null@example.com (Grah1) — Thu, 12 Dec 2024 11:02:36 +0000

Played my AI song live for the first time last night really went down well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qz8rpqAQgio This is the original version Ive changed the live version slightly .

Re: Don't Need AI

null@example.com (Peatle Jville) — Thu, 12 Dec 2024 02:57:19 +0000

Thank you, Richard that was interesting. I couldn't' t imagine me buying one of those but I'm sure if I had the right skills and mentality, I would consider it.

Re: Don't Need AI

null@example.com (Phill Williams) — Wed, 11 Dec 2024 11:19:00 +0000

Hi Richard. Thanks for the link. The intro saw me drooling over the guitars on show and I very impressed with that pseudo guitar thing,loving the sound etc. At first I wondered why you got rid of it but after watching the vid for a while I understood perfectly. It's not the same as the girl was playing in Petes video but it would take a lot more convincing for me to get one, either one!

Re: Don't Need AI

null@example.com (neophytte) — Wed, 11 Dec 2024 09:09:23 +0000

Peatle Jville wrote:

Cheers Richard, I was thinking while drilling down into this subject what simple instruments I would use or suggest getting a young kid started on a music playing journey. The ones that I think that I would suggest for starters are as follow, melodica, ukulele, recorder. Then if a kid showed aptitude or a desire I would then look into pianos, guitars or other traditional instruments before venturing out to other gizmos. Though there are some musical genius whiz kids on YouTube who are playing traditional instruments at an incredible young age better than adults most humans are challenged and have to work hard to play any instrument at any level. In my most probably not so good opinion, anything that comes easy doesn't always have the same satisfaction of an achievement that comes with a bit of a struggle. To me there will always be good social capital at being good at something but the real good feeling is when you overcome something to get there. Enough of my ranting hope this gives someone food for thought even if what i am posting on here doesn't make sense.

Yes - I managed to find the one I had; think I bought it (2nd hand) for $au200 and sold it for about the same:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XHOZUwX2zI

Cheers

Richard