One of these days she's going to finish her song called "I see you and you see me."  I'd be pleased to write what she's got so far but just haven't been blessed with that talent.  It's about people seeing one another, both of them being lonely, and neither one doing anything about it.  Here's a sample from the chorus.

I see you and you see me
Why are we just sitting here
when we could go out and play
You go on and leave
and I'm still so lonely.

There's more verses but I can't remember them just now.  I think it's brilliant. 

Just in case anyone is cyberland is with social services, she has a very fun and friend-filled life.  I just listen to a lot of classic Country and she hears the themes. 

- Zurf

Boo Boo Boo
Boo Boo Boo
Trick or Treat
Give me something good to eat
But if you don't
I will pull down your underwear
I am not scared of you.



I have no idea where the "pull down your underwear" comes from - but I think it's just part of being six because all the little girls seem to shout about underwear and poopies incessently whenever they play together.   I am quite pleased that she avoided poopies in her song. 

I've played the song for her while she sings using a standard GCGD country/folk style. 

- Zurf

Just picked up a self-titled album by John Prine.  It's got three of my favorite John Prine songs, "Angel from Montgomery", "Your Flag Decal Won't Get You Into Heaven Anymore", and "Paradise."  I've been trying to learn the first and last songs from that list, so this album will be getting a fair bit of play.

- Zurf

When I was a kid, I was courted by several conservatories.  I had done a little gigging prior to that - was bass player in a playhouse orchestra, had played in a studio band for a Christmas album as part of a brass choir.  It was fun, but there was no way I was going to make a living at it.  I decided to go to school for business instead. 

But I've got some friends that have done the pro thing.  One of my good buddies was in a touring band when he was only 16.  He met Joe Walsh in a basement jamm session and learned Funk #49 from Joe Walsh himself before it was even released on an album.  Some other friends are in a Country top 40 band in the U.S.  My niece was good friends with the child of a 'famous' musician.  The first guy has a day job - even though he's still in a band that headlines bars and does opening for national acts.  The other guys ride the tour bus, and most would say have 'made it in the big time', but they still have frequent periods of unemployment.  And when they are employed, they wake up in a bus with a GPS unit built into their bunks so they know where they are.  They communicate with their wives and kids via cell phone.  The child of the famous musician met my niece at boarding school.  Seems her mom loved her very much, but wanted to make sure she got a better education than life on the road and international travel 40+ weeks of the year can permit.  Not a life I'd like.   

Seems like most here are playing for themselves.  But for those who want to be famous, don't think that you're going to get the life you see on MTV Cribs or Biography interviews.  Those folks are the elite of the elite.  For every one of them, there are 100 "famous" folks just scraping by, not knowing where they are or who they'll see.  Sitting bored at the backstage of a venue letting the roadies do their thing and just waiting for the opportunity to get on stage and "work" for an hour or two. 

- Zurf

After reading Frankster's posts, I'm thinking that my new Yamaha may need a name.  I kind of liked his line of thinking.  Now my Yamaha - she likes to be played rough and tickled both.  So she needs something rough and tumble.  She sounds good with Country songs and the faster the finger picking the better - so something a little hillbilly is in order.  I guess I've got me a hillbilly tomboy guitar.  Trixie?  No.  Bobbi?  Yeah.  That kind of works.  Maybe Bobbi-Jo.  Nah.  I like Bobbi better.

- Zurf

25Frankster -
I'm going to send you a song from a fellow Buckeye that I think you'll like.  I have permission to distribute his music. 

- Zurf

6,707

(29 replies, posted in Acoustic)

Worship songs have some crazy hard progressions!  A buddy of mine and I gave it a go with a bunch of charts I have from my bass days.  I never knew the guitar players were working that hard!  I was impressed with them then, and moreso now.  My buddy and I gave up and played some Willie Nelson.  G, C, G, C.  Aaaaaaaaahhhh. 

- Zurf

6,708

(15 replies, posted in Acoustic)

alvee33 wrote:

I've been converted to Wedgies. They have like a wee impression on them for your thumb to sit in. Very comfortable to hold, less slip. I use 60's, I like just a little bend in my pick. Just a little though.
I used to have problems with how it sounded strumming with a pick but I discovered that it was down to how I was holding it.
Just one other thing. Try recording yourself strumming. I bet you don't sound as bad as you think.

Just got some of these.  I feel like I have a lot more control.  But mine do not have any bend and  it is LOUD!  I'm going to try some more of these with a thinner construction.  One of the next things for me to learn is picking arpeggios, inversions and scales, which will require far more pick control than I have now. 

- Zurf

6,709

(14 replies, posted in Acoustic)

You're biting off more than you can chew if you think you can emulate one of rock's most famous guitarists on your first attempt. 

There are some instructional materials on the web.  Not very good ones that I've found yet, but some.  Mostly they let you pick up tips or something.  There are very good instructional materials available in book and video form.  Many of the books come with CDs or DVDs that demonstrate soundwise or visually what has been described in detail in the book.  This is a good route.  Learn a few things, then put them to use in a song.  Learn a few more things, put those to use in more songs.  Take "Stairway" or any other song you like well as a GOAL.  Let it direct your learning.  To play Stairway, you really need to understand chord arpeggios and inversions.  So, take that as your first thing to learn.  What is a chord?  What notes are in it?  What are different ways to strike those notes?  Next you'll need to know how to switch between chords.  There are some good lessons on-line to teach that, but it's really just a matter of practice.  Write down all the chords in the song, then make a chart of each change.  C to G.  G to Em.  etc.  (I don't know if those chords are in Stairway because I'm not interested in learning that particular song, chords are just used as an illustration).  Then do each chord change several hundred times a day for a week or two.  You'll get more and more proficient.  Pretty soon, when a chord change confronts you in a song, you'll already know how to do it and won't need to even think about it.  Keep picking up little bits like that, mastering them along the way, and eventually (or sooner) you'll reach your goal of playing "Stairway" flawlessly.

The guitar you've been given is a treasure.  Martin D-28 is one of the most well-used and famous models of acoustic guitar for good reason.  It's an excellent instrument. 

- Zurf

Well, I for one am very pleased to have grown up.  Based on how recklessly I used to live, there are a number of people who didn't think I'd make it.  I did.  Not without reminders of my carelessness every time the weather changes, but I made it.  At least one member of the new generation is showing early indications of my recklessness.  I may as well go get to know the emergency room doctors now.  I was on a first name basis with most of the ER staff by the time I graduated high school. 

- Zurf

Names must be earned.  Give it a while. 
I have named only one of my instruments - and it was actually named for me.  When I bought my first bass, it had the word "Whizbang" painted on the back.  Though my big Ovation Magnum is slowly earning the name "Thumper".  I've only had it for fifteen years, so there's no rush. 

- Zurf

6,712

(21 replies, posted in Acoustic)

Yeah.  A friend sent an Andy McKee clip to me a few months ago.  I forwarded it to my sister, who's been playing longer than Andy McKee has been alive.  Her only comment was YOWZER!!! 

I think it's wonderful to see how differently people are blessed.  It's tough to imagine someone playing like that without there being some sort of special gifting of talent.

- Zurf

RobWright - My children have started to ask me to sing "guitar songs" for them at bedtime.  Perhaps I shall be able to use them as a cheap excuse for packing the guitar.  Generally, I attempt to travel somewhat light (unless it's to a river camp that I'm going - in which case I pack for comfort). 

- Zurf

6,714

(3 replies, posted in Chordie's Chat Corner)

Depending on how much you may have trained your voice, you may not have a key yet.  If singing is something new to you, just getting on pitch at all can be a challenge.  If you CAN carry a tune in a bucket using your voice, then trying different tunings of songs will certainly be helpful.  There are several suggestions for how to do i in the "Singing" thread, as mentioned by Des.From.Liverpool.

- Zurf

6,715

(3 replies, posted in Acoustic)

I make it up.  I also frequently adjust the melody to fit my strum pattern in a sort of descending spiral away from sounding like a cover. 

It's also helpful to listen carefully to covers of songs you'd like to do.  Especially if you can get the original artist and several covers.  You'll get an idea for the 'meat' of the song and still stick with that while personalizing the rest. 

- Zurf

6,716

(7 replies, posted in Acoustic)

Oh you're on your way!!!  Go out and find some songs on the Artists or Songs section of this site.  Then start playing them.  Don't worry about playing then the original artist (or the cover you know).  Play it the way you want to play it.  With that repertoire of chords, and the ability to do some barre's (especially F#m), you're as ready as ready can be.  The hard part now is learning to transition between chords smoothly (or if roughly, then roughly with style - like George Thorogood). 

- Zurf

Some of the best advice I've ever gotten.  I have it framed by my desk.  I got it in an interview with a man who drops gems like this as easy as breathing.  I doubt he even really thought about it during our interview (I was interviewing him for a research project).  His name is Ray Linder and he's a right smart fellow.

"To be successful at anything you first have to figure out who you are and be that." 

Be who you are.  That's harder than it sounds.  Because sometimes folks act they way they want to be (punk vs. goth vs. yuppie vs. redneck, etc.).  Labels get in the way.  Refuse to be labelled - even by yourself.  Refuse to fit into a mold unless it's one you choose for yourself for your own purpose.  God made you to be who you are.  But now that I've said that, you should listen carefully to the advice of your elders - especially your parents.  You may not believe it, but no one knows you better.  Probably not even yourself. 

- Zurf

6,718

(22 replies, posted in Chordie's Chat Corner)

It changes regularly.  My favorites of the moment:

Redemption Song, Three Little Birds - Bob Marley
Promises - Eric Clapton
Dixie Highway - Hillbilly Idol
Country Life - James McModerator (or whatever our esteemed moderator's name is)
Forever & Ever Amen - Randy Travis

Only the last two do I attempt to play. 

Current favorite songs to play are:'
Crocodile Rock - Elton John
Fever & Ever Amen - Ibid
Country Life - Ibid
Hippie Chick - Selso
Tim Cup Chalice - Jimmy Buffett

This could go on  for hours, though, so I'll stop there.

- Zurf

6,719

(15 replies, posted in Acoustic)

I use the same pick as SouthPaw, except I actually like the .88 for guitar playing.  I use a much larger pick when I use a pick on my bass.  Each time I go to the guitar store, I buy a few different styles of picks that I've never tried before just to see whether I like them.  The Jim Dunlops have been the ones I have found to be easiest to hold onto.  I play pretty loudly, so maybe I should try a softer pick.  Either that or learn to sing louder. 

- Zurf

6,720

(9 replies, posted in Acoustic)

gitaardocphil wrote:

CONGRATULATIONS, I discovered a lot too and what I don't understand is why on the acoustic site.

Right! You'd think that they'd be targeting drummer sites. 

Thanks SouthPaw for your extra effort on our behalf.  Thanks Roger and James too. 

- Zurf

Jimmy Buffett "Beaches" from his Beaches, Bars, Boats, and Ballads box set.  Bob Marley's "Legend" is probably the most played CD I have.  I have also been listening to Randy Travis' "Glory Train" and "Passing Through". 

- Zurf (edited b/c I used my name from another forum)

I play because I enjoy it.

So far I have been wildly successful at avoiding fame.

- Zurf

6,723

(11 replies, posted in Acoustic)

Poorly.

I'm working on doing a pluck with my thumb and a strum with my finger.  On an upstrum, I'm using my thumb again.  I have no idea whether this is right or not, but it sounds brighter than using my thumb all the time.  It hits the strings with the nails rather than the flesh better. 

Something to try, but I can't guarantee it's the "right" way to do it or that there isn't a better way. 

Because this finger/thumb strum method doesn't sound very melodious (though I think it can in time), I mostly strum with a pick.  What I don't do with a pick, is pick.  I pick with fingers.  Go figure.

- Zurf

Here's what a buddy of mine tells his students:

Once you start playing, you're going to suck.  You're going to want to quite because you'll think playing chords without buzzes and mutes is impossible. 

After six months of playing, you're still going to suck but you might not buzz or mute as much.  You'll feel like you've had some progress. 

After a year, you're going to start getting better.  While you'll want to play for others, they won't want to hear you.

After two years, you're going to sound OK.  Some folks may ask if you know a particular song.  You probably won't. 

After five years, they're going to send you back home to get your guitar if you forgot it. 

____

Six months and still working on chord forms and changes to play songs - no worries.  No worries at all.  You're right on target. 

I've been at it about a year now.  I can do pretty good on open chords.  I'm just beginning to play simple barre chords - but they're slow and painful and sound poor.  I know a couple of strum patterns and a couple fingerpick patterns.  I usually use the wrong ones with inconsistent timing.  With that poor playing, my buddy the instructor thinks I'm progressing very quickly and well.  I'll take his word on it.  I've only twice played with friends.  The first time they voted as to whether my singing or my playing was worse and they couldn't decide.  The second time everyone was drunk and they sang along and couldn't give a rat's patootie how I sounded.  I mean, how can you go wrong playing Take Me Home Country Roads when sitting on a campground between a country road and a river in West Virginia while pasing around a mason jar?  Can't.  Carefully selected song. 

- Zurf

Doc,

What is more difficult as an adult is finding time in a schedule to play with others.  Playing bass along with CDs on my trainer is good practice, but it isn't FUN.  Playing with others is FUN for me.  As an adult, finding some regulars to play with and finding time in a schedule is what is difficult for me.  I have friends who want to get together, but we just can't make our schedules click. 

With the guitar, I feel like I can play by myself and be making music.  When I play my bass by myself, I feel like it is a nice backing track.  It's just not the same. 

- Zurf