
377 2007-12-04 13:24:37
Topic: Report From The Bass Side (7 replies, posted in Electric)
I have been to a strange world where strings are thicker and sounds lower, here is what I found;
1) Bass amps are mainly transistor. Bassheads are immune to the siren call of valves and tubes.
2) Onboard electronics are common, basses are either active or passive. Active equates to the kind of EQ unit found in top-end electro-acoustics.
3) Basses are heavy, I mean really heavy. Imagine what crazy sustain you'd get if you used the body of one on a regular electric guitar.
4) Retro is rare. Bassists aren't impressed by original spec reissues. Modern bass pickups have far more oomph than the original Fender ones and few pay a premium for an old-time sound.
5) Wood rules. Bassists love oiled finishes that show plenty of grain. Fancy colours? Whassat?
6) Effects: Count them on the fingers of one hand, bassists are pretty immune to tweaking.
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378 2007-12-04 09:59:19
Re: Lightning Fast Lead Breaks and Licks (3 replies, posted in Electric)
OK, first off there are the cheats, things that sound like solos but are really;
a) collections of chords played up and down the neck with attitude, see 'The Sonics'.
b) one note wonders, see 'I Can See For Miles' and Neil Young's 'Cinnamon Girl'.
If you've gotten your finger picking up to speed you can play real fast this way but it doesn't sound right, trust me I've tried but it's not rock'n'roll.
Real soloing could be said to be scales played up and down the neck really fast. There's more to it than that, begin with Ralph Argesta's 'Blues: Jam Trax' book and CD combination. This is at least fun and if you keep at it you'll get faster. Look for this month's 'Guitar Techniques' magazine, not sure if this is UK only but this issue screams 'Play Faster!' on the cover and has exercises in legato playing which is at the heart of speed solos.
379 2007-12-03 15:04:13
Re: SONGS COVERED, AND BETTER or worse THAN THE ORIGINAL (26 replies, posted in Chordie's Chat Corner)
I'm A Believer - I don't believe the Neil Diamond version was ever released, so not sure this really counts.
Obladi Oblada - Part of the Beatles Surfeit of riches, 'album tracks' like this were given away to other groups to have hits with rather than make them actual Beatles singles. I think the Tremeloes got gifted with 'Here Comes The Sun' about the same time.
Suzi Q - was something of a band staple and was covered alot in th 60s/70s. James Burton did a fine instrumental version on 'The Guitar Sounds Of James Burton' (recorded when a session was booked for Elvis's band Sweet Inspirations et al and then Elvis failed to show).
Hendrix's Wild Thing - Jimi got tired of playing the same old set very quickly so would cover hit songs of the day often with little preparation. His versions were more of a springboard for improvisation but it certainly showcased his huge range as did his 'Sergeant Peppers'.
380 2007-12-03 10:14:35
Re: Would appreciate advice/recommendations (13 replies, posted in Acoustic)
You'll get more value for money by steering clear of big names like Guild and Martin, checkout Tanglewood, BlueRidge, Seagull. Of course if you like that classic American vibe then go for it, there's no substitute :-)
381 2007-12-03 09:57:42
Re: Greatest Bass Groove - Tramp (2 replies, posted in Other string instruments)
Errm.... how about start with G on the E string with your first finger, pause then rock over nearby to D on the A string with your ring finger and then back to F on the D string, then it's D on the A string again followed by G on the D string?
382 2007-12-02 20:45:41
Re: Guitar effects setup (3 replies, posted in Guitars and accessories)
I have to disagree. To me it's always sounded like a variation on vibrato and stereo/echo effects. Great for that late sixties psychedelic one-off effect but not really a serious sound at all...
383 2007-12-02 20:42:11
Re: changing strings (7 replies, posted in Guitars and accessories)
Guitar shops will often restring your guitar for you for only a few bucks over the packet price. Great chance to see a pro at work and make a note of the gauge they choose to match your current strings.
Ignore all the stuff about heavier gauges improving tone and building finger strength. When you're starting out with playing guitar custom lights are just fine.
384 2007-12-02 20:31:42
Topic: Greatest Bass Groove - Tramp (2 replies, posted in Other string instruments)
Been practising it all weekend, here's clip;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3vaxlJ86vk
Utterly infectious groovesomeness!
385 2007-12-02 20:20:48
Re: Bass Tip No.1 (2 replies, posted in Other string instruments)
Here some of the other candidates;
James Jamerson http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ND-iW51idC0
John Entwistle http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVl39LBZGMw
See your Levin and raise you the Ox's bass cam!
386 2007-12-01 18:38:10
Topic: Bass Tip No.1 (2 replies, posted in Other string instruments)
Play along with drums. Doesn't matter if it's simply a loop or a drum machine preset but get a beat to plunk along with. Metronome is fine but a little empty, nothing like a snare and kick sound.
Garageband for the mac has a wonderful set of Vintage Funk drums which all help me practise. I'm not planning to play funk but it makes for interesting animated practising.
387 2007-11-28 21:36:41
Re: Starting Bass (7 replies, posted in Other string instruments)
Just got Ed Friedland's Bass Grooves (Develop Your Groove and Play Like The Pros In Any Style) book from Amazon today and I can report it's very good. I was after a mid-point between abstract exercises and songs that are too fast and too fiddly for a novice. Bass Grooves fits the bill as it doesn't waste pages on buying/maintaining a bass it gets straight in with familiar grooves. Pages 14 & 15 already had me concentrating, 'the shuffle' isn't as easy as it might appear.
Interestingly for Jerome Friedland encourages the player to skat sing phrases like ba-chk-da and a-dig-a-chik-a over the passages to build up the right feel and yes it works. Your friends and relatives will think you've gone nuts but it's worth it to get that locked in feel.
If I feel really brave tomorrow, I'll attempt James Brown's lasting groove legacy 'The One' :-)
388 2007-11-28 17:01:02
Re: Luthier advice (44 replies, posted in Guitars and accessories)
I get the impression that shops do alot of restringing and repair work (particularly electrics) more so than making guitars to comission. Certainly make sure you have made several guitars of all the main types before calling yourself a luthier. Tuition also appears to be a big moneyspinner these days if my local store is typical.
Guitar stores have alot of bases to cover, first there need to be cheap Squire type instruments for parents/kids, then you need some to die for Fender/Gibsons (preferably some kind of rare limited edition) for the middle-aged male who is more collector than player. Then you need something mid-priced that plays nice even though the name isn't well known for people like me.
You also need to get the atmosphere right so that nervous customers aren't intimidated by metal players at the back but genuine players feel your store has got something for them. It's a tall order but hundreds of local shops do real well at it.
389 2007-11-28 16:49:37
Re: gibson les paul (11 replies, posted in Guitars and accessories)
White isn't a common colour for Les Pauls but they are out there and Epiphone do have them. The classic sound should be twin humbuckers, a real meaty solid rock sound without the ethereal edge Strat single coils have.
390 2007-11-28 16:42:05
Re: Line 6 or Fender? (4 replies, posted in Guitars and accessories)
Both amps you've show are modelling amps so both will do the metal thing. Your real question is therefore which recreation of overdriven circuits sounds best to you. There are lots more amps out there, check out anything Marshall as these are usually hi-gain.
Have you already got a Line6 Pod, Behringer Vamp or similar? These have amp modelling without the speaker box so you can use them to 'audition' the amp sound you want - good cheap way to mess around with every sound going on headphones without committing to the full amp. Pocket Pod is great value this way.
391 2007-11-25 19:10:32
Re: Starting Bass (7 replies, posted in Other string instruments)
Thanks for that Jerome, I've been enjoying the fact that basslines bond onto the song, lead guitar lines always seem so superfluous, electric solos are like playing a song's worth of material in ten seconds. 'California Girls' by the Beach Boys is a very good practise piece, it's based on;
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------6-----------
----9---9---------
--7--------7------
Looks easy eh? and in a way it is. Plunk those notes and you have all the verse rhythmn. Now try singing along with what you are playing. Troublesville. Suddenly I realised the words had to be phrased just right to match in and that the bass had to swing the beat just a tiny bit to sound interesting. I'm still working on it...
The chorus is a simple double beat on the top E string (2) 7 9 5 7 3 5 (up to 7 and back into the verse rhythmn).
392 2007-11-23 21:27:23
Re: Versatile guitar for under $250? (10 replies, posted in Electric)
If you want versatile avoid one-trick ponies like the current Gibson MelodyMaker which is a punk rock tool and not much else. Likewise lightweight strats with puny pickups will give you a trash surf sound but not much else. Fat strat's do have alot to recommend them, particularly the SSH combination.
However buying a guitar can't be stripped down to a simple technical purchase equation. There are emotions at work, things like colour and shape. If you don't like the colour or an instrument is too showy or just isn't you then you'll just end up not playing or selling it sooner. A big ole Gretsch can give a rockin sound but for alot of people they're way too countrified.
When I'm going round guitar shops instruments speak to me like my current bass, no looker and a one-trick pony soundwise; but it's a great one-trick. Suits me...
393 2007-11-20 17:03:06
Topic: Stone Cold Crowd Pleasers (10 replies, posted in Chordie's Chat Corner)
What songs will get the audience up and dancing guarranteed?
(We'll take 'Louie Louie' and 'Twist and Shout' as read)
394 2007-11-20 17:00:37
Re: My First Electric! (7 replies, posted in Electric)
Actually RL, electric gets you callouses in new places! Most solo techniques rely on covering a fret with a whole finger so you tend to get hard skin lower down. Bass will do the same, unless I'm doing something wrong! (meaning to book some bass tuition soon and have this dread feeling they'll say 'Ah you're playing bass like a guitarist, my my we have alot of bad habits to unlearn...tsk tsk')
395 2007-11-20 16:52:57
Topic: Old Vs New Article (0 replies, posted in Electric)
Fascinating stuff;
396 2007-11-19 21:58:17
Topic: Your Attention Getter (16 replies, posted in Electric)
Was at gig on Friday where the first act came on and played the Terminator theme before breaking into 'Teenage Kicks', blieve you me the staccato drums and droning guitar get's people looking. I was reminded how bands need something to get the crowd's attention, like Elvis used to take the stage to 'Also Sprach Zarathusa'.
What would you play to get a crowded club facing your way?
397 2007-11-19 14:05:35
Re: stupid question (13 replies, posted in Acoustic)
<Seeing as this is already about time sigs, how do I play a 4/6 beat?>
That's basicly 16 beats every 4 bars or two and third every bar, a sort of wonky waltz time. Would need a really good drummer and sound odd me thinks. Did I get the math right?
398 2007-11-19 10:19:12
Re: Starting Bass (7 replies, posted in Other string instruments)
If anyone asks you 'how easy is bass to play' you answer 'how dull would you like me to play?'. Bass is a support instrument and you can just plunk away at the root, on some songs this is just right, but otherwise it is dullsville.
Problem I've had is finding good bass tutor books, alot start by throwing theory at you, more so than regular guitar. I hate this kind of 'country style lick', 'funk style groove' approach to learning. Give me real songs to get my teeth into. To this end I bought the Bass Tab White Pages, amazing value but alot of the songs are quite elaborate, real bassists choice stuff (Elvis's All Shook Up is very a very good practiser though).
My current beginners songs; Louie Louie, Hang On Sloopy, Little Honda, You're No Good and if you really love musicals Summer Loving from Grease!
399 2007-11-18 21:30:51
Re: bass (3 replies, posted in Other string instruments)
Just picked up a bass myself Eva. The ground floor of bass playing is simply playing the root note, so if the chord is G fret on 3rd on the E string, if the chord is C drop down to 3rd on A etc. This cna sound fine on tracks where you are providing unobtrusive support, country ballads etc. It is also key to simplistic 60s frat rock stuff like 'Louie Louie' and 'Hang On Sloopy'. But after that you need to start getting into full blown grooves, lines you cand move around and apply.
Another good starter song I've had fun with tonight is 'Little Honda' by the Beach Boys. Look for a version that is C F G although it's all up one fret (capoed at first on regular guitar). Watchout for some wrong bass tabs for this. Correct 3 notes are 4th fret A string, 2nd fret E string and 4th fret E string. Use a hard pick to imitate a honda two-stroke engine. Great fun!
400 2007-11-18 21:21:35
Re: My First Electric! (7 replies, posted in Electric)
Have fun RL :-) Amplified sound is a whole new world.