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I have reported spam to a couple of Moderators and did not receive a reply. Used to be close to the originator of another site and we had a rule that new members could not post for the first 10 days. Most who join just to leave spam would not do it if had to wait 10  days after joining. They would just go join somewhere else to leave the spam they seem to like doing.  Anyway it solved the  spam problem, and those who join for the right reason understood why they had to wait to post. It does not stop them from reading posts and from normal searches for songs.

mekidsmom thank you, and thank you for what you do.

I thought the Takimine F312 was a steel string guitar.  In his original post mr_guitar_man was talking about Nylon String Guitars.

I have played a Takimine C132S and for it just seemed off. The fret spacing was different and not as high as others.  When I played it was at a local music store so the setup should have been right.

Good question and glad you mentioned it.  It often depend on the acoustics of where you are playing. When needed  I have a pair of C12VR’s  set to omni so background noise isnot picked up. Overall their sound is accurate to what the guitar actually sounds like and they do not alter the sound.

I have a good ear for sound and also proper proper technique both that are important to do concerts and to teach classical guitar. Fortunately I have had students who received full scholarships to college because of how good they became. I am saying these things because how these Yamaha's sound when I play and use in a concert can have repercussions for me.

The strings I installed on both have settled in and to my ear they sound as good as my upper end guitars. They have ebony fret boards and that for me is requirement. I often practice with my eyes closed and the classical guitar player and any guitar player of any type guitar, either knows the feel and location of their hands or not. All classical guitars should have the same fret board location regardless of make or model,  custom made or not.   

I will know on August 19th how they sound on a concert I have done for several years.

I was asking the question for what each of you thought and from the answers of large part of how any guitar plays is how it feels and sounds and that is how it should be.

I received the two guitars I ordered and studied each of them. Pleased to no end of the fit and finish of each of them, they are flawless. It will be a few days for the strings to settle in to know how they will sound.  I will post more on them in just a few days.

Thank each of you who has responded.  For Doug Smith, Tenement Funster,  Baldguitardude, and  dino48 to respond is years of experience and dedication to Chordie. . Also thank you to Just upstate bob for your first post.

Once I do the concert I report back on how it went and how the Yamaha were received. They should be delivered today.

Cedar for guitars are from Western states as well as Alaska. Here is  some information about tree size:

Growing Conditions

The western red cedar prefers moist and humid conditions, such as those found in the Pacific Northwest, and likes partial shade to full sun. Growing in zones 5 to 9, the western red cedar also does best in moist, alkaline to acid soil. In the wild, the tree survives best on level surfaces. When grown on slopes, the tree is more vulnerable to damage from high winds due to its shallow roots.
Size

The western red cedar spreads to about 15 to 20 feet in width, with heights ranging from 50 feet up to 200 feet in the forests of the Pacific Northwest. The tree continues to grow for up to 300 years, according to Forests of Oregon and the King County's Native Plant Guide.
Range

The western red cedar is a low-maintenance tree once established. Its normal growing range extends from the northern coastline of California and up into the Pacific Northwest of Oregon and Washington state and ranges as far inland as western Montana.

There is far more cedar used for siding on homes  and roofs than used in guitars.

I realize this is an older subject, but for me it would be a Yamaha CG192 with a cedar top. Current cost is at $500 and I have some students who have it and I have played and it is a great sounding classical guitar for the price. It also has an ebony fret board.

Have you thought of using a lighter gauge string? Would that help the problem are having?

At one time I used a heavy gauge with one of my classical guitars. I found I could practice for an hour and went to a normal gauge and could practice for three hours. I have stayed with normal gauge ever since and use the same string on all of my guitars.

For those who have tried learning finger picking or Travis picking and are having problems with it feeling natural. Have you watched an electric bass player closely? Most use their first and second finger. For now forget your thumb. Once you get comfortable with using the first and second finger, then add your thumb on the base strings, and at the same time re-position your hand so it is comfortable to use all three together. Once you learn to do this you will soon learn variations using the same fingers. Also if you keep you hand free from the guitar then later it will also feel better. Some use their little finger as an anchor and if you just don't start using an anchor then later you will be limited.

I hope this helps those who want to learn and having problems. Go slow and practice finger picking at least some each day until it feels natural.

I mentioned in another post that I play with clauses and not nails. I grew my right hand nails out at one time years ago and did not like the sound of any of my classical guitars, or the feel of playing with nails. I teach classical guitar and also do concerts. I just returned from doing a five day concert trip to 4 different cities, so when I say I play with clauses they are very hard and have developed them over a very long time. As far as fake nails at least for me personally I do not understand how you can feel the music you are playing. I also admit I have never tried them. What ever works best for each one of you and how you play is the most important factor.

Also just to mention it I do not know a single other classical guitar player that does not stare at his left hand when they perform.  While I use my left leg to play, I never look at my hand, I look at those who paid to hear me play. Either you know how your guitar feels and where the frets are, or you don't.