6,426

(13 replies, posted in Chordie's Chat Corner)

mixter102 wrote:

Disco is also an American creation.

(said with fingers in ears and eyes tightly shut)
Lalalalalalalalalalalala.  I can't hear you!  Lalalalalalalalala.  Nobody's listening!

big_smile

- Zurf

6,427

(13 replies, posted in Acoustic)

I don't know about the rest of the shape and such, but I can tell you why Bo Diddly plays a square guitar.  It's an homage to his father.  They were poor and young Bo wanted to play guitar.  His father couldn't afford a guitar, but he built one for young Bo using a cigar box he found.  Now that he is capable of purchasing any guitar he wants, or having any guitar he wants built for him, Bo Diddly retains the square shape as a thank you to the ingenuity and interest of his father. 

- Zurf

6,428

(5 replies, posted in Acoustic)

The third one you printed out.

The major scale in C is C, D, E, F, G, A, B, C.  The major scale has intervals of whole step, whole step, half step, whole step, whole step, whole step, half step.  Or if you are in Europe, that's Two Semitones, Two Semitones, One Semitone, Two Semitones, Two Semitones, Two Semitones, One Semitone. 

The differences you may be seeing are playing the same notes in different positions on the fret-board.  If that's the case, then each is correct.  For example, the starting C can either be on the low E string at the eight fret or the A string at the third fret.  Same note, but they'll look different in a printout. 

Hope that helps, because that's as  much as I know.  Now I'll let step back and let Jerome and Russell correct what I've said.

6,429

(13 replies, posted in Chordie's Chat Corner)

Blues is American.  Blues roots are varied including some Gospel (Memphis style blues) some call and response (Chicago style blues) some French and Appalachian folk music (Delta blues) and a bunch of other styles.  The roots may have come from around the world, but the Blues is American.  And while we're at it, I'm laying claim to Bluegrass, 60's era Soul, and Jazz too!  I'll let Europe take Disco and Dance Remix   [NOTE: I don't think the former is true. I just refuse to accept the truth of the matter of Disco's origination.  It's much easier on my psyche to blame Europe.]

Asking whether someone is black enough has become a pre-occupation of American press and is a racist and ridiculous question.  Presuming that all blacks act alike is the racist part, and to presume that there's a "blackness" that is "watered down" by other races is ridiculous.  I can understand how you would be confused by it.  Just know that parentage or genetics doesn't matter because when someone asks that question they are really asking a behavioral and socio-economic question rather than a biologic or genetic question.  Trying to understand it in the sensible, scientific, non-racist terms you are using will not result in a satisfactory answer.   Thank God for people like you who don't understand that brand of racism!!! 

- Zurf

6,430

(20 replies, posted in Acoustic)

Yu - I'm a big fan of playing the way you want rather than playing the way that's right.  BUT given that, on upstrokes it is traditional to only play the a few of the upper strings to get a bit of up and down sonic "feel" or "movement" to the rhythm without having to change chord positions.  There's no reason that you can't play all the strings at once, but it's not as interesting sounding as hitting just a few of the upper or middle strings on your upstrokes. 

Think of the upstroke as the "a" in Johnny Cash's Boom Chick-a-Boom sound. 

- Zurf

6,431

(47 replies, posted in Acoustic)

Pizza is good.  If there's pizza on the line, just make up your own answer on tritones.

6,432

(31 replies, posted in Acoustic)

What sadist came up with that chord?  Fess up!  I want to know where to direct my heinous thoughts.

- Zurf

6,433

(20 replies, posted in Acoustic)

Every day.  Just every day.  Spreadsheets.  Wow.  That's something.  Good for you on that.  Too much for me.  I work spreadsheets and stay organized all daggone day.  Guitar's the anti-spreadsheet for me, but to each his own.  Keep at it every day, and you'll not be a newbie long.  Get a couple songs under your belt, even if they peek out a little it's all right.  Get you some friends and a campfire and have a go.  So what if you have to play the 59th Bridge song six times straight, it's still Grrooooovvvyyyyy. 

Keep it fun, don't get frustrated.  If you can't sing while you play, at least smile.  I'm serious.  It's hard to get angry with yourself if you're smiling, even if it's a fake smile.

- Zurf

6,434

(39 replies, posted in Acoustic)

I'm getting there myself.  It's taking a long while, but now I no longer cringe when F, F#m, or Bm is in a song.  I don't do any other barres, and so far haven't needed to learn.  Well, except B.  I'm avoiding it, but can't for much longer if I want to learn to play Defying Gravity in a key that I can sing it.

- Big D

6,435

(16 replies, posted in Acoustic)

Greek's Cellar.  I remember that place.  My fraternity had our officer meetings at the Cellar.  Now the fraternity I was in was a professional fraternity and it attracted folks who were learning and working.  It was not the kind of frat that was a $400/month drinking club.  Greeks Cellar at that time was the kind of place that bikers and truckers and townies and college kids with dirt under their nails could all meet.  Rich college kids, not so welcome.  I remember some frat boys going in there with their Ralph Lauren Polo shirts and their pastel cotten sweaters neatly knotted around their necks.  "Greeks?  Why would they advertise this place to Greeks?  This clearly is not a place where our ilk would be."  That sort of thing.  Of course, it was named Greek's because the nickname of the guy who ran it was "Greek".  They were not trying to attract the pan-Helenic and inter-fraternity crowd.  Well, these fellows kept on running the place down.  There were some bikers at the long row table just inside the door.  One of them, a fellow with biceps about the size of my leg, a shaved head, and enough tattoes to get the job done went over to their table, leaned down, looked the guy closest to him dead in the eye and said, "We don't like you.  Get out."  Those six frat boys jumped up and ran out of the place faster than you can blink.  Left their pitchers and pies right there on the table.  The president of our frat walks over to the table and picked up their pitchers.  Those full pitchers found their way back to our table thanks to our President's ingenuity.  But before sitting down, the President took one of the pitchers and topped off the beer of the biker dude who scared them off along with a simple "Thanks".  The pitcher and president then returned to our table.  The bikers laughed right out loud at the audacity.  It helped that our fraternity was co-ed and the president was a good looking brunette who had a fondness for tight pants and v-neck sweaters and wasn't above bending a little low while she poured the biker's beer or putting a little extra wiggle in her walk on the way back to our table. 

Yeah.  Getting a little nostalgic myself now. 

- Zurf

6,436

(16 replies, posted in Acoustic)

You're either talking about TOTS (Top Of The Stairs) or the Ton 80 Club or a Mexican themed place that kept changing names.  I think it was called the Night Owl the longest.  I never drank at the Night Owl.  I hesitate to mention how much time I spent in the Ton 80 Club or how much money I fleeced the frat boys for at TOTS.  Ton 80 was owned by the same fellow that ran Buddy's.  A fellow not surprisingly named Buddy. 

Do you remember Mr. Fooz?  It closed down in '84 or '85 I think.  Crazy place on Fridays.  Actually had a weapons check at the door.   I recall seeing a young gal I fancied (but not more than the one I wound up marrying) who was generally a rather mild-mannered gal dancing on a pool table DURING A GAME there.   It surely raised my estimation of her at the time, though now I obviously have different criteria.

- Zurf

6,437

(16 replies, posted in Acoustic)

I probably saw and heard you play.

I used to go to South Main Cafe somewhat frequently up through '87, and Steady Rollin' Bob Margolin was one of my favorites to go see.  Other than Bob Margolin, our favorite band was "Look What Landed."  They had a 16 year old lead guitar player for whom they had to get special permission to have a minor play in bars (and his parents were in the audience).   

If you played with Bob Margolin, you are one hot guitar picking son-of-a-gun because he only plays with the best. 

- Zurf

6,438

(55 replies, posted in Acoustic)

Black thumb.... not good.  Unless you're black of course, in which case it's fine.   But is sure sounded like you don't NORMALLY have a black thumb.  I think that might be a clue that you were pushing too hard. 

- Zurf

6,439

(16 replies, posted in Acoustic)

Southpaw - I like Music123 as well.  I've even gotten some freebies from them with orders.  They sent free bass strings with an amp once.  Another time I got a string changer tool free with some strings.  Kind of nice to be appreciated as a customer. 

I didn't see the models I played listed.  The higher end one did not look like a purled maple.  I'd recognize maple I think.  The two lower models were zebra wood or some other exotic.  The higher one could possibly have been purled maple, but it looked like a looser grain than I'm used to with maple and was VERY light weight.  I expect it was some sort of tropical exotic.  Plus the price was about $100 less than what I see there.   Music123 can be beat on price, but usually not by 20%. 

- Zurf

6,440

(57 replies, posted in Acoustic)

Not old, but came to guitar playing as an adult (over 40).  I started with a Classical as well.  After getting some success in practicing, I purchased a steel string folk guitar for the tone and because by that time I wanted a narrower neck.  I think it is easier to get started with a Classical model too, though. 

Good luck, have fun, check back often and let us know how it's going.  I've been playing guitar less than two years now and I surely get a lot of encouragement hearing how others are doing, discovering that they're facing the same challenges.  Plus, if you ask for help, you'll get it here.  There are some wonderful folks who enjoy helping others learn to make music. 

- Zurf

6,441

(16 replies, posted in Acoustic)

I've been thinking about trading my electric for an acoustic/electric.  I never play the electric, or rarely enough that trading it makes some sense. 

So, I drove by a Guitar Center last night.  "By" is an exaggeration in Metropolitan DC rush hour traffic.  Permit me to rephrase, I saw a Guitar Center last night on my way home and stopped in to get out of traffic for a little while. 

I tried a few inexpensive (sub-$500 American) guitars.  Lazarus was an interesting guitar.  I had never heard of the brand.  It's American design, Chinese build.  It was OK, not great.  Played a Seagull - RAGING middle, but too muddy for me.  Didn't care for the particular model (didn't write it down) though I like Seagull in general. 

What surprised me was that there were three Ibanez models, two with solid top at least one that was all solid, that were under $400.  The first was $399, the second was $349, and the final was $299.  The bottom two were gorgeous - some kind of exotic wood that looks like Zebra wood.  Playing the middle model stunk.  It felt like pressing bridge cables through mud and sounded about the same.  It was dead or dying so fast as to make no difference.    The low end played easily and had a pleasing sound.  The higher end one was unfinished, or no more than a very lightly applied matte finish.  It rang like a bell, which surprised me for the small body.  The body shape had a deep cut-away.  The electronics were highly adjustable.  I don't know the brand because it was labled with Ibanez' name, though I suspect they outsource them to Fishman guessing based upon their traditional supplier.  Just a guess.  I didn't plug it in, but unplugged it sounded nice and played easily.  Low to moderate action, good highs, solid bass.  Even got a decent F chord, which is unusual for me.  The middle was soft, but at least it wasn't muddy. 

Wish I had written down the model. 

I've always liked Ibanez' A/E basses.  Their Fishman electronics sound great plugged in and the tone stands up to the tone of A/E's costing three times as much and blow away anything that costs less.  I had never played their A/E guitars, but was very pleased thinking they're a great value.   

For full disclosure, my electric guitar is an Ibanez SG knockoff.  It sounds amazing for the moderate price I paid to get it. 

Just some food for thought.  The Ibanez' stood up very well to the Takemine's that cost roughly 20% more.  That's not meant to knock Takemine, which I think is a consistently good brand, just said to give some indication of the value I perceived with the Ibanez A/E's. 

They have no resale value to speak of, but if you're looking for a guitar to keep, or an entree' A/E guitar that you don't mind losing value quickly, I'd recommend playing some Ibanez A/E boxes.

- Zurf

6,442

(47 replies, posted in Acoustic)

THANK YOU RUSSELL!!

I am getting a capo this weekend.  There are so many songs in "C" that I'd like to do but have such a problem with getting to F cleanly.  Wonderful!! 

- Zurf

A few Jimmy Buffett tunes for campfire use:
"Changes in Lattitudes, Changes in Attitudes"  - As a departure from my usual I am actually learning this as a straight cover

"Distantly in Love" - laid back strum with a little finger picking.  It's actually a Steve Goodman song but it was made famous by Jimmy Buffett.

"A Pirate Looks at Forty" - I've some friends with whom I fish and camp who are more than half river pirate (reformed of course).  One has put forty astern while the has it looming o'er the bow.  Average it out, and it's all good. 

"City of New Orleans"- Speaking of Steve Goodman songs...I'm doing it fingerpick and trying to be dead steady keeping an alternating bass line on 1 & 3 to keep the feel of rail travel.  Playing a simultaneous bass line and fingerpicking a treble fill has been terribly challenging for me.  If I can master it, the world will be my oyster.  Or at least my mussell.  I'm not really a big fan of oysters.

- Zurf

6,444

(4 replies, posted in Songwriting)

So my daughter (1st grade) has an assignment to write a report about alligators.  Here's the assignment.  We wrote it together with me providing the music.  I helped her with the rhymes.  We couldn't come up with anything that rhymed with teeth so switched it around some.  Anyway, this silly little ditty is a folksy blues in G.  The last line of each stanza ends with a quick bass run down to G.  This is better than her one about her stuffed animals or her imaginary friend, which I thought were pretty good for a six year old.  I can't write worth a darn, but it seems my six year old is getting the knack. 


MY ALLIGATOR ASSIGNMENT
Alligators live in a river.
Alligators live in a swamp.
If you want to be a long liver,
don't be around when one goes chomp.

Alligators have got long, strong tails.
Alligator's tails go swish.
Alligators won't chase a whale,
but they will gladly eat a fish.

Alligators teeth are many,
and they have scales called scutes.
Alligators could bite you plenty,
but if you bite back you'll break a tooth.



I'm going to try and get to a buddy's studio and have her sing it into a mic to turn it in.  I'll accompany on guitar and sing backup.  I hope that counts for five complete sentences.   This being a Dad thing is pretty fun!!

- Zurf

People from Ohio are called "Buckeyes".  The Buckeye is a kind of nut tree that grows in abundance in Ohio.  That's what a Buckeye friend IS.  But you asked what they're for.  Mostly, I guess, they're for life.  Plus they always let me take their beer in camp, help me learn new songs, and generally good for treating me with every hospitality known to man (well, the decent ones). 

I can't promise that I can make it there if you come because it's a minimum of four hour drive to Ohio and as much as eight hour drive depending on where your friends are.  The point is that I want to know of it in case I can get away. 

- Zurf

Lena darling, if you make it to Ohio, I want to know about it.  I've got a lot of Buckeye friends and can likely find nearby crash space to visit.  If it can work out, the very least I can do is buy you dinner and a drink for all the entertainment your songs have brought me.   Learning to cast from a kayak while controlling the boat is surely a challange, but a worthwhile one to me.  I have always loved fishing and paddling.  Combining the two brings an awful lot of pleasure to my life.   Playing guitar and singing by the campfire afterwards tops off the day.  Hard to beat.

Southpaw, the New River Valley is my favorite place in the world to be.  I went to Virginia Tech and graduated in '87.  I've been trying to get back ever since.  The New River is where many of the pictures were taken.  Some in Virginia near Blacksburg and Radford and some downstream a hundred miles or so in West Virginia near Hinton.  You are welcome in my campsite or my boat any time.  Open invitation.

- Zurf

Cool!  Checking out James' site, I also got to see a couple other Chordians.  Doc looks a whole lot different than I figured.  I'm guessing it's because my grandfather was Belgian and I subconsciously expect every Belgian man to look like my grandfather.   Lena's every bit as pretty and gentle looking as I'd have figured. 

Loved checking out the other songs, too.  Very cool.  Ashamed sounded nothing like I expected.  It was wonderful!! 

I can guess one thing, though.  I've probably been playing "The Country Life" completely wrong (or at least differently from the way James imagined it). 

It was fun seeing pictures of you folks.  I don't have a MySpace site, but if you're interested in seeing me pursuing some of my other passions (fishing and paddling), you can check out my picture site. 

www.picasaweb.google.com/halffastpaddler/     

I'm the guy with the salt & pepper goatee and chrome dome.   A lot of my friends and family appear in the pictures as well.  No art there, just snapshots and memories.

- Zurf

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(21 replies, posted in Songwriting)

Well done.  I enjoyed it.  May steal it.  Acoustically of course. 

- Zurf

6,449

(55 replies, posted in Acoustic)

que522 wrote:

how long B4 it comes naturally?

I'll let you know...

I've been hitting F#m, F, and Bm pretty hard by playing songs with those chords in them and playing however they sound (which is usually pretty muddy) but just keep on going.  Then later, I would practice the chords until I got a good sound.  So each night, I would practice getting to the chord quickly and smoothly in a song and not worrying about how it sounded, and also getting a good, clean sound out of the chord without worrying about how long it took me to get to the chord.  The two are merging over time, meaning that I am getting to the chords more quickly and at the same time getting a cleaner sound. 

I've been doing this every day for about six months.  I'm almost to where I'm feeling comfortable.  I am no longer actively avoiding songs with Bm, F, or F#m in them.  Usually not anyway.

- Zurf

6,450

(2 replies, posted in Chordie's Chat Corner)

Depends.  Generally, I prefer lyrics.  That said, Iron Maiden has some exceptionally good lyrics but I can't listen to them for more than a few seconds because I can't stand their speed metal sound.  On the other hand, the John Butler Trio have some lyrics that don't even make sense but with the rhythmic delivery fitting in with the musical accompaniment, I like the groove and listen longer. 

In general, though, it's lyrics that hook me to a song.  If I wind up playing it, it's not going to sound anything like the original anyway, so I'm on the listen for lyrics. 

- Zurf