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Cam, There is also a diagram called the circle of fifths, this is a circle designed to help Musicians and composers compose harmonizing melodies, building chords etc.
If you get it on Wikipedia it explains everything, from each key if you go 1 left then 2 right you get the chord progression for that key, for eg:- key C, 1 left is F, and 2 right is G. chord progression C.F.G. its very interesting, and you should enjoy understanding it. Tony.
I have just been through all this with Jerome over the last few weeks, its very interesting to get your head around it, but once you understand A.B.C.D.E.F.G.A as Do, Ra,Me,Fa,So,La,Te,Do on each scale, the scale always runs in alphabetical order depending which key you start in for eg:- Key D will go D.E.F.G.A.B.C. so the chord progression in D would go :- Chord D, 1st, Chord G, being the 4th, Chord A, being the 5th. 1-4-5. hope this has helped. Tony.
Cam, that was brilliant, very good voice but the pickin was out of this world.
Thanks everyone for your advice, if you go to www.all-guitar-chords.com. click on Reverse Guitar Scale finder, you can click on each string on any fret and this will give you all the notes, if you go down on each fret from the 5th to open pos, on each string this will show you where there are no half notes, between E & F, B & C,
thanks again for all the advice. Tony
Recently I have posted various questions on this forum, an had very good answers and explanations, I have learned about A.B.C.D.E.F.G.A. for the various scales, the circle of fifths, Chord progressions etc, and as you go up the fretboard each fret is an half tone and 2 frets is a full tone.
Brilliant I am educating myself, so trying to be clever, I started thinking about the tuning stratogy, I have been playing for yrs and used the tuning sequence probably hundreds and hundreds of times, I have never thought over these yrs how we arrive at E.B.G.D.A.E. so trying to be clever, and using what i have learned over the last few weeks, my head started thinking, if the first string is open E, then we finger the 5th fret 2nd string tune them together so 2nd string becomes an E on the 5th fret, working back down the fretboard, 4th fret 2nd string becomes Dsharp, half a tone less than E, 3rd fret becomes a D, one full tone after E, 2nd fret becomes Csharp, 1st fret becomes C, then we arrive at B.
Whats happened to Bsharp?, so carrying on through various sequences back down the fretboard with the normal tuning system we can understand where we arrive at E.B.G.D.A.E. the only thing that has hit me is that there is no Bsharps & no Esharps ?. why is this ?.
Is this because we we dont want any sharps in the open strings tuning system, they would become Esharp, Bsharp, G, D. A. Esharp.
has anybody got an explanation for this, or am I trying to be to clever for my own good
Thanks, Tony.
Jerome, I think i have finally cracked the circle of fifths, what i did was took C. one left F. and one right from C = G. giving me a group of C.F.G. then the same from G, middle ,left, right, giving me G.C.D. I carried on all the way round untill I arrived back at the beggining with C.F.G. being 12 progressions around the circle. am i correct.
Very good, I can understand the majors, but the sharps & flats, ?
tony
Ive got my head round the circle of fiths now, after looking it up on the net, but still cant understand how you get flats & sharps, have to do more reading. Tony
By the way, I still cannot get my head around the circle of fifths, even after reading reading all about it on Wilkopedia, nevermind thats another subject for another day Tony
I asked questions on this forum a couple of days ago, regarding understanding scales & chord progressions, I read Wlbays explanation and it blew my head away when it came to 1 to 8 in numbers and various keys F, C, A, etc.
At that time I had not read your explanation of scales & primers at the head of this forum.
Since reading this, I am so much more understanding about this subject.
I now understandhow what 1 to 8 is with regard to C,D,E,F,G,A,B,C, how this the pattern for Do,Ra,Me,Fa,So,La,T,Do, in various keys, and by utilising the chord progression being 1st, 3rd, 4th I understand how chords are made up.
Also Root and tone and half tone how and what they are on the scale.
Thank you very much Jerome for a very good explanation, and clearing an old mans head, I hate it when I cannot understand things.
Best of luck, Tony
I have just been reading Wlbays explanations of chord progressions, on the 18th of the 12th, 2009, in this theory forum: http://www.chordie.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=13766
I have been playing guitar for years, and understand groups of chords, and chord progressions, and maybe this all comes from experiance over the years.
I understand as Wlbaye explaned C,F,G,Am,Dm,Em, all compliment each other, and as do lots of other progressions, but C,D,E,F,G,A,B,C, as 1,11,111,1V,V,V1,V11, V111, has compleatly blown my head away, and for the rest of your explanations, well? I am stumped.
On another page below wlbayes chord progressions, Guitarpix has put a Key Chord Chart, with numbers 1 to 8 and various chords in order from 1 to 8. I presume in each key these are the chord progressions that compliment each other, in the meantime i will try these on my guitar.
Could somebody try to explain to me in easer terms how I can get my head around this, and make me understand how you arrive at various chord progressions using music theory.
Thanks.
I have just been going through various forums, and the amount of new people trying to play guitar is interesting, what I have noticed is:- they try to run before they can walk, this is probably because they are so keen to be able to play guitar.
They get music or song sheets with chords on them, this is all fine if you are familiar with the chords.
Some lines in songs may expect you to change chords 5 times, some only 2, but to be able to change chords so quickly takes years of practice, also to adapt strumming patterns to these chords is very difficult.
I have been playing guitar for 15 to 20 yrs, and my advice to new players is, instead of going straight into song sheets, learn a group of chords that will harmonise with each other say:- C then Am then F then G7, learn this group in that order, keep practicing untill you can change the chords in that order very quickly, when you can do that practice the strumming pattern, adapt different beats, for each chord. pick the middle 4 strings 5th, 4th,3rd, 2nd, 3rd, 4th in that order on each chord.
Once you have masterd this you will have acheaved somthing, and this group of chords fits into loads of songs.
Try in the picking order I said, and play Wise men say, only fools rush in,by Elvis.
you will be pleased with yourself, Hope this is helpfull to all you new players, young & old, best of luck.
As Zurf said, thinest string is your 1st string, thickest string is your 6th string, the fret nearest the top is the 1st fret. Chords played individualy just sound like a chord, but played in a group sound like a tune. Learn this:-
C chord.
1st finger, 2nd string,1st fret
2nd finger,4th string, 2nd fret
3rd finger,5th string, 3rd fret
Am chord.
1st finger, 2nd string, 1st fret
2nd finger, 4th string, 2nd fret
3rd finger, 3rd string, 2nd fret
F chord.
1st finger, 1st & 2nd string, 1st fret,
2nd finger, 3rd string, 2nd fret
3rd finger, 4th string, 3rd fret
G7 chord.
1st finger, 1st string,1st fret
2nd finger,5th string, 2nd fret
3rd finger, 6th string, 3rd fret
Put your 1st,2nd, and 3rd fingers on the frets as indicated, learn C, then Am, then F,
then G7, once learned, play C then Am, then F, then G7, this group of chords fits loads
of songs and tunes, best of luck, let me know how you go on. Tony.
Try Jerry Reed on you tube, lots of picking songs, and good material to, you can make your own songbook up.
Im that old I can remember the last war, but the 60s,70s,80s, a great era, PS, never stop trying,my wife thinks I am mad. Nothing wrong with my Head & Fingers, just picking the intro to Muleskinner Blues not bad for an OAP. Best of luck to all you youngsters 
I got some tabs off Chordie, but very hard to play, the chords no problem, its the fingering, can anybody help me
Just learning about tabs, never used this before, just got my head round Amos Moses
I played guitar in my teens & 20s, all jerry reed, Hank Glocklin,Jonny Cash, etc, plus the Beatles, then started working, never really bothered with the guitar again untill now, im 66 semi retired, bought myself a guitar again and i am loving every minute of it, all the chords are still there, fingers hardening up again, back on the road again.
Guitar chord forum - chordie → Posts by tonynulty
