Topic: Don't Need AI

I thought I would have a go at writing a song in answer to question I was asked about using AI  for composition and live performance. At a weak moment Maree decided to play keyboards on it as my hands were experiencing a bit of pain trying to keep up the tempo needed for the song. Just a cellphone recording at a later date I might tidy it up a bit more.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOWMAEml1vA 

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That was pretty interesting ... like any tool AI can be used, or misused ...

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Enjoyed that Pedr. The end chord was a surprise, but I like it.
AI...yeah, as neo says any tool can be used or abused. I think that a lot of people mainly youngsters will use it as a shortcut to making them into "pop stars" and lots of money? Dream on. All these AI gizmos are making the creators a lot of cash and the users lazy as they don't need to learn how to play an instrument or even how to sing or compose. I suppose I'm at fault as I use a synthetic to replicate the sounds of piano or strings, but at least I actually play the thing. Beware humans...skylab is coming...lol     

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Cheers Richard and Piri, you are right if used properly AI can be good. But what I am saying if you have a talent, and you want to express what is humanly in you then I don't think you need to depend on AI. Though I have met a singer poet and writer who tells me he now uses AI to develop his lyrical ideas. I have another friend who uses Band In A Box sometimes to write music but for the final product he likes to actually get musicians to play.  I have heard at open mikes now many turn up with backing tracks instead of accompanying themselves with a guitar or whatever. To me if people do that, they should call it Karaoke. Though I not against using tech along with instruments to fill out the sound.  Bands using click tracks live tends to sound stilted to me though with a solo player it can work for me as an audience member. When a band has a drummer I notice the free flying ones are more enjoyable to my ear then ones who are obviously using click tracks. Was it Ringo Starr who famously said I am the click track in the recording studio? But with regards to AI being used as part of the creative process it most probably feels ok to the younger ones where to me being a person who likes it to be from me it wouldn't feel right. But the truth been told it would most probably give me a better composition.
BTW
The outro chords came about after I pushed the wrong buttons on my keyboard by mistake and I realized the full organ sound sort of worked.     

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I call them "happy accidents"

As for backing tracks I used them when I was gigging, it began because venues had a disco on first and at the end, so a bloke with a guitar looked and sounded lost. Though I can't see the point at an open Mike night, isn't everyone meant to join in?     

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Cheers Piri, the Open Mic I have been to have all been as you say everyone joining in. Most will have a band who if you bring a chord chart of what you want to sing they will back you or if you want you can play solo with your own instrument of choice.
Here in Wellington back in the 60's and early 70s we had a lot of Cafe's where people played Folk music where many songs were sang by the performer and audience. Pubs and clubs were more Band orientated in the 70's and 80.s there were plenty of venues for bands. In the 90's a lot of that changed and things like disco's seem to pop up with band venues getting less and less. From the 90's onward to survive many musicians had to go solo and rely on tech to fill out their live sound. Band venues are getting less here now but there are still a few.
Some of its due to the bars not getting the crowds like they use to so the bars don't have the budget to employe bands. A young bloke told me he sings at a Open Mic, that allows some to bring their own backing tracks. I told him if they do that it should be called Karaoke. There is a group here who are really good singers when they play with a band I love them. But when they do gigs with backing tracks it doesn't work for me but many love them with a band or a backing track. One thing I miss now my Mum has passed on is her telling me stories about Big Bands and dancing and singing at Cabarets in the 40's and 50's. A thing she use to call going out and "Tripping The Light Fantastic". I'm ranting I better stop here.     

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Pedr you rant away buddy, there's not much going on here on Chordie at the moment so it's nice to have something intelligent to read first thing in the morning.
I remember the good old days when all our working mens clubs had organ and drum backing. Some of the bigger clubs would put on a variety night, usually Saturday,  where you'd have a group to kick off the night, then a solo singer then a comedian then the group would finish the night off. But as you say when the 90s arrived the club scene died off a lot so the first thing to go were the backing musicians and discos were brought in. As you say a lot of solo acts began to use backing tracks or they'd look stupid standing on stage mic in hand singing acapella! I scraped by because I played the guitar. Ah, the days of flare trousers and kipper ties, that's the part I don't miss!     

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Cheers Piri I have enjoyed the interaction on here with you. When I look at the hair and clothing styles that I was into at a different phases of my life I often think what was I thinking. It always amazes the younger generation that see those photos of the young fella that was me with long ginger hair is now the person who has what's left of his hair colored grey. The younger me and the me now are most probably from different planets. Maybe that could be a book title Young Are from Mars Old Are From Venus. though I can't really see that becoming a central metaphor in any society.

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That was clever with the voice over bits Peatle, well done.  I have mixed feelings about AI myself.  I think I prefer the human touch and human thoughts, ideas with song writing and performance.  Having said that, I think it is very clever what AI can do.     

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