Re: Tips for beginners (Seriously, Read this, it will help you alot)

Thanks for that good post, really helped my interest.

Re: Tips for beginners (Seriously, Read this, it will help you alot)

<i>My</i> facts <i>are</i> straight, DJ.  Martin NEVER had anything to do with Elixir.  But Elixir does buy their pre-coating strings from D'Addario.  You didn't read all my links, did you?


Get my head out of my what?  Now, now, that's actually a physical impossibility if you think about it.  You didn't pay attention when they covered anatomy in school, did you?


But that's OK, just cool down and take a few deep breaths.  It's all right to be wrong sometimes.  We're only human.  Heck, I'm even wrong once in awhile.  Not very often, but occasionally, LOL!


If you calm down and behave, maybe I'll give you a few pointers on the finer points of playing guitar, and a little guidance on choosing strings and instruments.  Could be very beneficial for you...


Oubaas  <img src="images/smiley_icons/icon_lol.gif" border=0 alt="Laughing">

Re: Tips for beginners (Seriously, Read this, it will help you alot)

I don't need help from anyone on anything, especially not from someone who thinks Martin is a bad guitar, because they obviously don't know what they are talking about.

DJ Cormier
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Re: Tips for beginners (Seriously, Read this, it will help you alot)

"Consistently average" does not mean "bad".  Martins are OK.  I just know that I can get better tone and equal or better quality and customer service for less money.  You might want to look at Larrivee guitars.  They're something of which Canada can be truly proud.  Very, very fine guitars, and for much less than a Martin.


As for not knowing what I'm talking about, now does that really make sense?  Do you really think it's possible for someone to have played guitar for thirty-nine years and not have a clue about the instrument or anything related to it?  I mean, I managed to retire with complete financial security by the time I was thirty-one years old.  I can't be that dorf!  Don't you think that just possibly, I might actually know at least <i>a little</i> something about guitar?  Isn't it possible that you're just being a bit uncharitable because you're miffed at me for pointing out some errors in your opinions?


Ah well.  Always bear in mind, it's better to be pissed off than pissed on...


Oubaas  <img src="images/smiley_icons/icon_biggrin.gif" border=0 alt="Very Happy">

Re: Tips for beginners (Seriously, Read this, it will help you alot)

Oubass: Did by chance you retire due to good fortune in the music industry?


bidjindustriez: If you are touting Martins so much, do you own one? or just your Yamaha?


Bootlegger.

Bootlegger guitars.

Re: Tips for beginners (Seriously, Read this, it will help you alot)

hey mr moderator....can we send these two off somewhere by themselves?.....

Go WINGS..and Tigers,Lions and Reading F.C...C'mon Royals

Re: Tips for beginners (Seriously, Read this, it will help you alot)

<b>"hey mr moderator....can we send these two off somewhere by themselves?....."</b>


Now, now.  I really think you ought to take the time to actually read the posts in this thread before popping up and using the phrase "these two" and trying to set yourself up as duty stool pigeon to the moderators.  I certainly haven't been in any way unpleasant.  On the contrary, I've been a paragon of self control in the face of some very unfortunate outbursts of temper from bigdjindustriez.  My initial comments were made because I felt that some of what bigdjindustriez had to say might prove very discouraging to beginning guitarists, and objected to his characterizing some people as "idiots" for the way they've chosen to learn guitar, and as a public service to the beginners, corrected him.


Perhaps Mr. Moderator should send YOU off somewhere for calling for heads without reading the posts and knowing the situation first.  Here I try to influence someone to maintain a proper community spirit and not discourage others, demonstrating on my own part a genuinely benevolent community spirit toward my fellow forum members, and you're including me as a miscreant?  Not very sporting of you, I'm afraid.  Do you frequently pop up in forums and immediately start calling for moderator action without really having any grounds?  Now that's a particulalry malignant form of trolling.  You really shouldn't do that.


Oubaas  <img src="images/smiley_icons/icon_biggrin.gif" border=0 alt="Very Happy">

Re: Tips for beginners (Seriously, Read this, it will help you alot)

OK Oubaas, I Will admit you are probably a good head, and lets drop this rivalry so to speak LOL.  Whoever said "do I own a martin because I am reccomding them alot" no I don't own a martin, I own a Yamaha FX-TBS-40, An experimental type Gibson Jumbo which is very rare, it has a bolt on style neck.  It's actually an epiphone, but it's an old one, about 20 years.  And I also have  a strat copy.  But I have played an Ovation, Alvarez, Martin, Taylor, Gibson Hollowbody, Guild, Yamaha 12 string and a Fender, and I still like Martins the best.

My apologies Oubaas for any hard feelings or negative comments, lets move forward.

DJ Cormier
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Re: Tips for beginners (Seriously, Read this, it will help you alot)

<img src="images/smiley_icons/icon_cool.gif" border=0 alt="Cool"> I didn't care for Yamaha,  until someone gave me one as a gift.  The coating is a little thick,  but I don't mind it.  One of my original guitars was a YAMAKI.  Now that was a fine sounding instrument.  My  brother J P had a martin custom.  Cost him fifteen thousand.  It began to disintigrate while he was playing it on stage.  He's heavy handed.  He uses a tortoise shell pick given to him by Doc Watson at the Winfield flat top picking contest.  As to coated strings,  I gotta say they last a long time.  Mine have been on for two years now,  and still have their tone!  But like you say,  to each their own. The kibitzing back and forth was quite amusing though.  You have some very valid points,  that I fully respect.

Re: Tips for beginners (Seriously, Read this, it will help you alot)

<b>"OK Oubaas, ...lets drop this rivalry so to speak LOL.  My apologies Oubaas for any hard feelings or negative comments, lets move forward."</b>


Now there's something that we agree on!  My apologies as well if I was out of line, and no hard feelings, DJ.


Oubaas  <img src="images/smiley_icons/icon_smile.gif" border=0 alt="Smile">

Re: Tips for beginners (Seriously, Read this, it will help you alot)

If you already have an acoustic guitar, Don't get an electric guitar (until you learn acoustic first) thats the best advice I can give you.  Playing an electric guitar is easy, therefore if you learn on an electric and want to play an acoustic later, you won't be able to...not well anyways.  Playing the acoustic will strengthen your fingers and give you the feel for the frets. 


How long did you say you've been playing???


I don't wanna sound rude here, but all my friends who've been playing the guitar for years tell me that the best advice they can give a beginner is to learn to play the electric guitar first.


Not only will this give the 'learning stage' a boost, but it will also help toughen up those fingertips until you start to play the acoustic guitar, which can save lots of frusteration in the end.  <img src="images/smiley_icons/icon_razz.gif" border=0 alt="Razz">


So tell me...who am i to believe?  <img src="images/smiley_icons/icon_confused.gif" border=0 alt="Confused">

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That makes absolutely NO sense at all.  Think about it.  The strings on an acoustic are MUCH harder to press down than on an electric.  Therefore OBVIOUSLY it will strengthen your fingers more.  If you want to learn on electric go ahead, but Don't expect to play acoustic well later.  I'm sure he rest of us can vouche for that, right?

DJ Cormier
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Re: Tips for beginners (Seriously, Read this, it will help you alot)

Actually I learnned on an electric and then bought an accustic to play outside and at coffee houses and such. I had no problem. The only thing I had to get used to was that accustics are generally bulkier and lighter than electrics. If only I would have had someone there to tell me...then I could have bought into the B.S. myths that surround the whole electric vs accustic debate. How did I miss it? Where was I? What in the world was I doing????Oh yeah I remember...I was making music on whatever instrument I had in my hand. Sure wish you would have been there to set me straight!!!

                                 - Mike

"Nobody paints by ear so why would I play guitar by sight?" hmm

Re: Tips for beginners (Seriously, Read this, it will help you alot)

P.S.

Elixer strings are possibly the worste sounding accustic strings I've ever played since the time I put super slinky electric strings on my accustic. That was a very interesting sound.

"Nobody paints by ear so why would I play guitar by sight?" hmm

Re: Tips for beginners (Seriously, Read this, it will help you alot)

When are you people gonna stop it with the jealousy and realize Elixir makes the best strings going? it's getting old...

DJ Cormier
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Re: Tips for beginners (Seriously, Read this, it will help you alot)

Hi all,


I'm fairly new to this so thanks for all the advice  <img src="images/smiley_icons/icon_smile.gif" border=0 alt="Smile">


Been practising on a borrowed, cheap, acoustic for a few months now and have just invested (a little bit) in an Ibanez GSA60 and a Marshall MG30DFX amp.


Have I made a good choice?  The reason I've gone electric rather than buying a better acoustic is that it's just not giving me what I want (the sounds in my head.. if that makes sense?!)


I'd appreciate any comments/advice from anyone...


Thanks

Re: Tips for beginners (Seriously, Read this, it will help you alot)

Marshall makes a good amp, but ibanez is usually not very good.  If you can afford a Marshall amp, you can probably afford a medium end fender guitar..or not, not my place to say.

DJ Cormier
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Re: Tips for beginners (Seriously, Read this, it will help you alot)

I think Ibenez makes a fine electric. So does Steve Vai.

"Nobody paints by ear so why would I play guitar by sight?" hmm

Re: Tips for beginners (Seriously, Read this, it will help you alot)

ibanez may have made a fairly good electric a long time ago, but now they are cheapo guitars.

DJ Cormier
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Re: Tips for beginners (Seriously, Read this, it will help you alot)

Personally I too like Elixer strings. They are easier on my fingers and sound good too. I don't know who makes them or really care...lol But I did take note that the "light" strings break easy if you are a hard strummer. They are pricey though <img src="images/smiley_icons/icon_eek.gif" border=0 alt="Shocked"> PS: I do fine that I am able to wear off the coating after 3 0r 4 weeks of playing, if I play alot. So I end up changing these strings every 3 months or so. <img src="images/smiley_icons/icon_biggrin.gif" border=0 alt="Very Happy">

Life isn't about how to survive the storm, But how to dance in the rain... smile

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Wow.


I have been playing about a year and a half. Learned on a Mexi-Strat and just bought an Ibanez Acoustic with a fishman pickup.


Dude, the Ibanez is a really nice guitar for the money. You guys toss around the $800-900 price point like anyone can do it. Remember most people here will NEVER make a dime from their playing or cut a record. I play for enjoyment, and dropping an extra $500 for a name is crazy if you can get the sound <u>YOU</u>want for less. It is all personal preference.


Also, learning on the electric and transitioning to acoustic was not an issue. I have had my acoustic for...lets see...three days and I can play it as well as my Strat which has Ultra light strings. Again, it is all personal preference. I bought the acoustic that fit my playing style, the action I like and my smallish hands.


Lets not bust chops on preferences. It is pointless and only leads to pissing matches where everyone laughs at everyone else. OK maybe that means it isn't totally pointless!

Re: Tips for beginners (Seriously, Read this, it will help you alot)

Thanks for the tips Yavin & others.


I chose the Ibanez because although a few people said they had some tuning issues with it and the pick ups weren't great, they did say it was versatile with good build quality.  I don't think I'll be making a living from playing anyway so no point in spending a small fortune eh?

Re: Tips for beginners (Seriously, Read this, it will help you alot)

I have an Ibanez Acoustic electric, and I did not spend much for it, and the sound is great, at least for me , they make great guitars for the money.

Jerry