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#1 2011-07-15 13:17:24

joolsIndahouse
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Chord Help please?!

Hi I'm a newbie... I don't as yet fully understand how capo changes chords etc. Would someone be able to tell me the Chords for Dolly Partons - Coat of Many Colours with a capo on fret 2.

These are without the capo; D G7 A E B7.

Much appreciated!

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#2 2011-07-15 14:16:45

steelstrings
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Re: Chord Help please?!

Then it would be: C, F7, G, D, A7.

If you have any more trouble, try this site:
http://www.don-guitar.com/transpose.html


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#3 2011-07-15 14:48:37

NELA
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Re: Chord Help please?!

Now if its Dolly, herself, was playing the guitar she would be tuned to playing in  an Open E position using only 1 finger to make the chords. This is due to her long fingernails. So all the root notes would be on the 6th & 5th strings

Key of C
Index finger barring the 5, 4, 3, 2, & 1 strings at the 3rd fret would be a C chord. Do not strum the 6th string.

Index finger barring the 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, & 1 strings at the 1 fret would be a F chord. Strum all 6 strings.

Index finger barring the 6, 5, 4, 3, 2 & 1 strings at the 3rd fret would be a G chord. Strum all 6 strings,

Index finger barring the 5, 4, 3, 2, & 1 strings at the 5th fret would be a D chord. Do not strum the 6th string.

A chord could be played by struming the 5, 4, 3, 2, & 1 strings, only, open or could played by barring all 6 strings at the 5th fret and struming all strings.

This tuning can also be used for slide guitar. Kinda neat, huh?

Nela

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#4 2011-07-19 06:23:44

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Re: Chord Help please?!

steelstrings wrote:

Then it would be: C, F7, G, D, A7.

If you have any more trouble, try this site:
http://www.don-guitar.com/transpose.html

Steelstrings - Unless I'm missing something, I think you went the wrong way.

Jools said "without the capo; D G7 A E B7."

So then WITH the capo on fret 2, wouldn't the chords be:  E, A7, B, F# and C#7?

If I'm wrong, please let me know.

Late add:  OK, I see what you did was provide the finger shapes to get the same chord with a capo on fret 2.

What i did was provide what the new chords would be using the same finger shapes.

I guess either of us could be right depending on what Jools was actually asking for.


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#5 2011-07-19 10:05:16

steelstrings
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Re: Chord Help please?!

Sorry. I'm a bit confused here. I haven't studied my music theory for awhile. But you're probably right.


"Where you begin doesn't matter. Your willingness to start is what counts."
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#6 2011-07-19 11:44:40

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Re: Chord Help please?!

Personally, I find whatever shapes suit me best (simple open cords) and then put the capo where needed to suit my voice.  There is a chart in the acoustic section if you want to know what chords you're actually playing with the capo on while using those easier chord shapes.

NELA is right though, I did some research when I first started to play the guitar because I was desperately trying to find a way around cutting my nails.  Dolly uses tuning that makes it easy, but you can't go by standard chord charts.  I simply gave in and cut my nails and haven't looked back since.  smile

Welcome to the Chordie forum Jools!  I see you've been a member for a while, stick around the forums and you'll find a host of friendly folks ready willing and able to help you along your guitar journey.  smile


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#7 2011-07-19 15:22:18

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Re: Chord Help please?!

I'm kind of with mekidsmom, I'll play the song just open and experiment with the capo till I figure out what works for me. I can actually tranpose pretty well now but sometimes its still easier just to slap a capo on it smile.    Also, I can't tell you many fellow females I've watched shy away from guitar because of the whole nails thing. Ita kind of silly in retrospect because its made life much easier ( "ooh your nails dont look so great" "oh, well thats because I play guitar" "what!? you're so awesome!", or well something like that lol


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#8 2011-07-19 15:28:04

steelstrings
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Re: Chord Help please?!

Come on! Isn't playing the guitar cooler than having long nails?

Last edited by steelstrings (2011-07-19 15:28:45)


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#9 2011-07-19 16:04:34

HannahBeth
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Re: Chord Help please?!

I tried to teach my cousin one time but she insisted on wearig her fake nails. Naturally, they broke (not to mention the string killing action oy!). I think of cutting your nails like the first sign of dedication to your instrument! Besides, they don't have to be in the quick I keep my long enough to do nail polish and everything and just trim them if I start getting buzzes and what not. I think the issue with most people is less the specifics ( cutting your nails, running scales, building callouses etc.) and more the idea of actual commitment to the craft and havig to literally buckle down and get to work. Saying I don't wanna cut my nails is a much easier cop out than " playing guitar was just a whim, I really don't want to put the effort into it"


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#10 2011-07-19 17:03:13

Astronomikal
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Re: Chord Help please?!

steelstrings wrote:

Sorry. I'm a bit confused here.

Yes, I can see why.  I know what I meant when I typed my last post but it reads very confusingly.  Let me try this:

Let's distinguish between a "chord" and a "chord shape".

With no capo, we agree that XX0232 is a D chord and that X32010 is a C chord.

With a capo on fret 2 that "D chord shape" actually becomes an "E chord".  This is in line with my answer.

With a capo on fret 2 that "C chord shape" actually becomes a "D chord".  This is in line with your answer.


This probably doesn't help, but I took a shot.


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#11 2011-07-20 03:37:44

steelstrings
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Re: Chord Help please?!

Yeah, I got that now.  Thanks for that.


"Where you begin doesn't matter. Your willingness to start is what counts."
Without music life would be a mistake.
Country music is three chords and the truth.
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#12 2012-01-13 12:56:45

christopaul
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Re: Chord Help please?!

The whole point of using a capo is that, if the song is not in your key. Use a capo and it's in your key.

the chord sequence is  1, 4(7th) 5, 2, 6(7th)  The key you are playing in will change, but the patterns will stay the same.


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#13 2012-01-13 12:59:23

christopaul
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Re: Chord Help please?!

http://www.jamplay.com/guitar-lessons/g … onic-minor

I've just been on this site and found a lot of pennys just dropped for me. The lesson itself seems a bit slow, but stick with it and read the text that comes with it.


I see friends holdiong hands, saying "How do you do"
They're really saying, "I love you"
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