Thanks for the nickname Dirty Ed.  I was able to narrow down the river and check it out on Google Earth.  That sounds GREAT if you think children would be suited for it.  My children are familiar with rivers and with camping, but not river camping.  Nor am I for that matter - it having been decades since I have done it.  Having someone knowledgeable to guide us in the pursuit would be tremendous. 

I'm not sure what the border considerations are, though for safety's sake I suppose passports all around would be the best preparation. 

I will be mentioning this to Mrs. Zurf once we have had the children on the river a time or two this year and she can see how they like it.  It's tough getting them out there sometimes, but once we do there are always smiles all around. 

In that you are shy of something for July 2011 DE, you should get in touch with Roger, whom you met at RSCR last year.  He has been bugging me to do a river trip with him and I'm sure he'd be eager to arrange something.  Maybe you could do it on the Shenandoah and wrap up by joining us at the Shenandoah Rodeo in Bentonville.  I'll send you the e-mail info. 

- Zurf

To Guitarpix - It seems that there aren't many open-to-the-public 4x4 trails that I've been able to find.  I was able to find evidence of some clubs in Northern Virginia, and also there are some public trails in the National Forests. 

I suspect that if the 4x4 community is anything like the river community, that if you get on a forum for Northern Virginia (NOVA) and explain your situation you'll have a number of invitations.  The campground is in the Shenandoah Valley, so search for NOVA and Shenandoah Valley and ShenVal.  Some towns are Luray, Winchester, Bentonville, and if you're up for a little further drive Harrisonburg.

I think this would be fun - but it's too early for me to plan.  Also, I want to get my kids on the water and camping more this summer.  I have refused to get them into any long-term water-based activity until they were able to swim and be comfortable in water with current.  We're there with my eldest, but the youngest has a bit to go. 

Where are you thinking?  I looked up the Mississauga River on Google Earth and it appears to be rather long.  Also, there's more than one, it seems. 

This is a very exciting prospect.  I'll have to talk to Mrs. Zurf about it, of course, but I will admit to saying that my interest is piqued - especially the lake as I don't know that my kids will be up to much of a bumpy river.  It seems that when we chat about the trip on the way home or during break-down at the takeout that the parts I find to be interesting are the parts they did not like.  They like the long slow pools where they can see turtles and birds and there's the prospect of jumping out or having a splash battle. 

- Zurf

Bump.  There's been some recent off-line discussion.  Just keeping an eye on this one and bringing it back up for new members.

Bump.  There's been some recent discussions.  Here's hoping folks can make it out.  There's professional music usually on the night with the barbeque.   I talked to Jeff Kelble and he's excited about some campfire tunage on off nights or after the pro music.

Wrapping up a show in Australia, he fell off a stage face first, hitting his head on something in the process.  He was unconscious for some minutes (some reports say five, some reports say ten, some reports aren't specific) and was taken to a nearby hospital.  He is recovering at the hospital and receiving good care there. 

Some suggest that the lighting director shined a bright light on the edge of the stage while he was walking along it and couldn't see where we was walking.  Others suggest that he was preparing to jump off the stage to greet those in the audience.  The latter seems unlikely to me.  Having done lighting and light direction, I find the former more likely than the latter.

Anyway, I wish him well as I'm sure many other do too. 

- Zurf

Hmmmmmmmmm.

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southrnrockr wrote:
topdown wrote:

A few more:


Well I told my congress man and he said, quote: "I'd like to help you son but you're too young to vote" - Eddie Cochran

That is a line in Alan Jackson-Summertime blues. Was it a cover?

Yes.  Alan Jackson's version is a cover of Eddie Cochran's version.

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One more for now.  Our own "Dirty Ed" has a way with simultaneously using multiple meanings of the same words.  A favorite of mine is in his song "Beer Belly" where he sings "Me and my beer belly will be hanging out tonight." 

- Zurf

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And speaking of Country songs, while it is not brilliant it is surely memorable and gets the point across - "I've got friends in low places."

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I don't recall the composer.  I heard Johnny Cash's version of "Unchained" first.  Johnny gave proper credit on his album by that title, but I don't have the album handy to check it.  Anyway, there's a line in there in which the singer is compared to a street lunatic by saying "we've both forgotten to go home."  I see a lot of power in that line - the recognition of mutual humanity and that sometimes it is despair that binds us one with another.  I love this song.  For some reason, I have had a very difficult time memorizing it. 

And speaking of despair, the single best country song line is from Merle Haggard's "Momma Tried" where he spends his 21st birthday in jail doing a life sentence.

Sounds interesting.  As a family man, it is difficult for me to get away for a week.  Whenever I can get outside and take a trip, I always like to bring my munchkins along.  They are not ready for class 2 & 3 water (though I'm working on it).

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Welcome to the Chordie forums PalmettoBAR.  You are correct on two counts.  That the line is from Old Man and also it is an exceptional lyric.  When I see things like this, I am further dismayed that my own attempts will never measure up. 

- Zurf

Whitewater, Dirty Ed and I abused the kindness of Christiancastell and hijacked a thread regarding performing.  Now, given that most of my performing is done while pursuing fishing and paddling, there was a minimal connection, but not enough that we can't pretend it wasn't a hijack.  So I'm bringing it over here to continue the conversation, with apologies and thank yous to Christiancastell. 

Whitewater asked whether there are any fly-fishermen around.  I am one.  My father attempted to teach me long ago, but it didn't work out.  About ten years ago, I took it up again with less than enthusiasm.  However, one of the guys with whom I fish considers spinning rods to be the work of Satan, so I learned to fish his way.  Apparently my friend is unaware that the famous fly-fisherman Flip Pallot (first person ever to land a permit on a fly) regularly fishes with a spinning reel.  At least I got to get out.  Now I actually prefer fly fishing in most circumstances.  I've caught the largest of each of my target freshwater species while fly-fishing, with the exception of catfish, smallmouth and largemouth bass.  I will continue to work on the bass records this coming season.  Catfishing is not something I intend to pursue with a flyrod, despite having caught catfish on a fly. 

However, salmon, trout, and pike I have the largest all on fly rod - by a fair margin the largest too!

I have fly-fished in Virginia, West Virginia, North Carolina, Tennessee, Pennsylvania, Colorado, and Alaska.  I would love to return and do the Colorado River again.  The headwaters are an amazing trout fishery.  I'd also like to get to Montana as much for the hikes in as the fish.  The pictures all look too beautiful to believe. 

In a few weeks, I will be attending an event where I hope to receive instruction (group instruction, but instruction never-the-less) from Lefty Kreh.  I have read his style and his four key elements and watched his Youtube videos and have learned a tremendous amount.  His book "Presenting the Fly" is a 400+ page book in which there is not one wasted sentence.  Every word is a rich nugget of information.  It is impossible to absorb the entirety of the book in a lifetime, so I have no idea how he learned it and wrote it in less. 

- Zurf

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In a song co-written by Steve Goodman and Jimmy Buffett titled Distantly In Love, they move the song forward by saying different ways to sum the verse in each chorus.  First, he's writing a letter he has no intention of mailing andd the chorus says "I can't help but be, ruled by my inconsistencies."  In a later verse, he talks of going off to a mutual friend of the missing woman to drink wine and look at old pictures of them together and the chorus says "I can't help but be ruled by my antiquities."  As the song wraps up, he explains how he has heard that the woman has moved on with another man and the singer has elected to forego any further attempts at contact and it wraps up "I can't help but be part of my own philosophy."  I love it when the chorus is used to reinforce and move the story of the song along. 

One song I'm learning now is by Neil Young and it is about a family losing their house.  The song is "This Old House" and there is no good line in the song.  The entire composition is an exceptionally bright star among a whole galaxy of wonder written by that worthy musician.  I'd be breaking the rules to post the lyrics here, so I recommend looking up the song lyrics or checking it out on Youtube.  It was released during the 1987 recession, but is as relevant if not moreso today given how the current recession and housing foreclosures are so integrally connected.

- Zurf

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We've thoroughly abused the good graces of ChristianCastell.  Let's take the fishing discussion to Chat Corner.

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Oh, there's just so many.  Earlier today I heard a John Prine song where he used the line "It takes two to make three."  Isn't that wonderful? 

From "Everybody's Talkin'" "I'm going where the weather suits my clothes."   Doesn't that give imagery of an ill-prepared person out of place? 

And not everything has to be amazing.  I rather like "A mirror that lies, a mirror that lies, that couldn't be me in that gorilla disguise" from Jimmy Buffett's "This Hotel Room." 

There's so many good ones from traditional country gospel too.  From "Everybody Wants To Go To Heaven But Nobody Wants to Die" and speaking of Jesus, "At the end, He knew His Father's friends.  He was brave enough going to his death, but He didn't want to die."  And from Oh Death, "Oh Death, where is thy sting?  Grave where is thy suffering?  You thought you had a hold on me, but you were wrong I've been set free!"  [That last is public domain - don't worry about the copyright of having too many lyrics]    These get right to the heart of the matter, don't they?  Agree with the concept or don't, they are powerful lyrics. 

My whole head is filled with nothing but old lyrics and movie scenes, so I'll be back to this time and again probably.

- Zurf

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Try this guy's lessons.  There's a whole series of them.  I've found them invaluable, and enjoy his wry humor. 

http://www.ehow.com/video_2388033_findi … etter.html   

- Zurf

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"Ol' King" by Neil Young.  He uses a banjotar on it. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LewksJae … re=related

I lost my own Ivy dog after she had a stroke last fall and have been missing her.  Poor old thing gave up on something the first time in her life on her last day.  Unfortunately, the 'thing' was standing up.  She just kept collapsing and finally just laid down and quit trying.   

- Zurf

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Oh, I could learn.  I just don't care to dedicate the time required to learning the skills I would need.  I understand stream dynamics sufficiently well, it's the body skills I need to improve upon.  However, I am the self-proclaimed King of the Panic Brace.  The panic brace is a random set of motions made by a paddler, most of which ought not to work, that somehow or other return the paddler to a people side up attitude.  I do that stroke a lot.  The only thing rolling sessions have done for me so far is to give me great confidence and lack of concern with being upside down in my boat until such time as I can pop the skirt.  It seems that I am exceptionally talented on the first half of the roll.

- Zurf

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Sounds like fun.  I paddle a few Class 2 streams around here, and have been thinking of bringing a fly rod the past few years.  However, my paddling companion keeps taking off like a shot so he can take pictures as I come down through the rapids.  Also, he usually organizes 10 and 12 mile trips with only three or four hours to do them, so there's little opportunity to fish.  I used to instruct canoeing too, but flat-water.  My whitewater skills are not up to 100km runs with few pools.

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Cool.  My guitar beckons, but I think I'm going to be really lazy tonight.  Yep.  Pretty sure that's what it's going to be.  I haven't done anything worth doing all day.  Why start now?

Just an amazing number of them.  I really enjoy Jack Johnson's playing, but haven't even considered learning one of his songs. Some others:
Old Crow Medicine Show (but for one, and it was first written by Bob Dylan and only finished up by OCMS)
Most any bluegrass pickers, most especially Doc Watson
Cross Canadian Ragweed
Guy Clark
and a million others. 

- Zurf

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Here's my thoughts.  Forget the Recording King.  If it is the same price as Guild or Martin, get a Guild or Martin.  Why?  Well, because the things that make guitars sound great are often the same things that make a guitar fragile.  Where will Recording King be in ten years when that neck needs to be reset?  I don't know.  But I do know where Guild and Martin will be.  So, that's my thoughts on that.  Unless you are really itching to play some old finger style blues in the Robert Johnson vein and really, really, really want a 12 fret instrument to do it upon.  In that case, knock yourself out. 

Now, if you're looking for a decent sounding instrument in the $300 range and consider that to be a great price and are indifferent to A/E (meaning you'll ACCEPT electronics but not SELECT for them), then I'd suggest that you look at some of the folk nylon guitars out there.  Ibanez and Alvarez and a few other imports have them.  I think the risk of the neck reset with a nylon string is a lot lower, it will give you an instrument that plays easily but has an entirely different sound from the guitars you already have, and is affordable.  The issue (if you want to call it that) is that most of them come with electronics in them.   If the mere presence of electronics that you don't intend to use doesn't bother you, then that's what I'd be looking at if I were you. 

The other thing you can do is to PUT AWAY YOUR WALLET AND GET BACK TO PLAYING. 

- Zurf

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Happy New Guitar Day.  Nothing inspires practice like a new guitar.