2,251 Reply by jerome.oneil

(18 replies, posted in Electric)

lineboss58 wrote:

Thats the wonderfull thing about guitar over most any other instrument the fingering patterns are repeated time and again. Say you play C major no flats or sharps but then you go to B major now you have five sharps but no change in how your fingering pattern would play it. Thats why so many guitarists dont understand a lot of music theory the way the instrument is built they dont have to, they learn something in one key and then just move it around.

Yup. That's why I always stress that learning scales isn't hard.  Learn those few scale patterns and closed chord forms, and you can play in pretty much any key.

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2,252 Reply by jerome.oneil

(6 replies, posted in Chordie's Chat Corner)

That's a good assumption.

If something is in the key of A, then you should (generally) be able to play all the notes in that scale, and all the chords that contain those notes and be alright over the song.

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2,253 Reply by jerome.oneil

(16 replies, posted in Acoustic)

Over the Hills and Faraway.  Jimmy Page has almost all of my goal songs.

I still have goal songs.  Right now it's "Come up with a grooving acoustic blues version of "Folsom Prison Blues" and "Big River."

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2,254 Reply by jerome.oneil

(18 replies, posted in Electric)

aj1 wrote:
jerome.oneil wrote:

Learn the scales associated with each key, and you'll know the chords that apply to it.

G major, for example.

G A Bb C D E F G

The chords associated with *any* key are related to those notes, and their position in the scale.

Major, minor, minor, major, major, minor, minor b5, major.

So for G, it's associated chords are.

G Am Bbm C D Em Fmb5 G

Isn't G major scale

G A B C D E F# G

That's what I get for posting late at night.

Yes sir, it is.  big_smile

F has the Bb.  G the F is sharp. 

I blame lack of sleep.

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2,255 Reply by jerome.oneil

(18 replies, posted in Electric)

It's all about scales.  If you don't know scales, you're going to be really limited.

The fifth of any key is the fifth note in it's associated scale.

D is the fifth (V) of G.

G major. 

G A Bb C  D E  F  G
1  2 3   4  5  6  7  Root

F is the IV of C

C major

C D E F G A B C
1  2 3 4 5 6 7  8

It's all about scales.  The best thing you can do is learn them.  Learn how they are derived, and how they relate to each other.  Everything stems from that.

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2,256 Reply by jerome.oneil

(18 replies, posted in Electric)

Learn the scales associated with each key, and you'll know the chords that apply to it.

G major, for example.

G A Bb C D E F G

The chords associated with *any* key are related to those notes, and their position in the scale.

Major, minor, minor, major, major, minor, minor b5, major.

So for G, it's associated chords are.

G Am Bbm C D Em Fmb5 G

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2,257 Reply by jerome.oneil

(18 replies, posted in Electric)

The circle is pretty simple to understand if you understand how scales are derived.   Working counter clockwise through the scale, you move a fifth up from your starting point.  So if you start at C, the next point on the circle is G.  G is the fifth of C.  The next note over is D.  D is the fifth of G.  And so on.

If you go the other way, you get fourths.  The other way from C gives you F, which is the fourth of C. 

It's really a "circle of intervals."  If you know it, you can find any intervalic relationship.

Every other point on the circle is the 2nd of the root key going in "fifths" direction.  Skip four over, and you're at a major 3rd.  Fourths and fifths we've already covered.  Sixths are three jumps away, and sevenths are 5.

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2,258 Reply by jerome.oneil

(21 replies, posted in Acoustic)

50ft Queenie from P.J. Harvey is my favorite drop D bit.

Jimmy Page played a lot of alternate tunings, too.

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2,259 Reply by jerome.oneil

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wade mc wrote:

i know tabs don't give timing thats why i need somethin like tabsand sheet music at the same time. if thats posible.

and ya dragon force is the fastest songs i could find so far. i'm realy not sure if there is anything faster.

It's possible, it's just not common on the net.

The coolest tab I've ever seen had chord markings for the chords (duh), but instead of standard tab markings, it would use standard notation notes to mark the tab for the solo bits.  It was a nice little hybrid system.

If you want fast, Shawn Lane is the fastest, cleanest, most lyrical guitar player that ever lived.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57q5zdvMw58

Pay attention to the famous words at around the 2:30 point.

"You can also play that picking each note..."

Oh.  Can I?

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2,260 Reply by jerome.oneil

(8 replies, posted in Electric)

Tablature doesn't give you any indication of what the rhythm, meter, or time signature of a piece is.  It's an incomplete form of written notation.

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2,261 Reply by jerome.oneil

(10 replies, posted in About Chordie)

Tune it just like you tune a guitar.  The only difference is that your B and e strings are gone.

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2,262 Reply by jerome.oneil

(10 replies, posted in Electric)

cytania wrote:

True James but most people have trouble understanding minor and major scales. I recommend learning the basics before acquiring scales that only fit off-beat jazz stuff.

I've been playing nearly four years and still don't always 'hear' the modality first off. Got myself in a real pickle last week trying to play a minor tune bassline with a major triad!

Major and minor scales *are* the basics.   They are the foundation for just about every modern guitar piece you're going to play,  and the foundation for any solo you're going to play.\

People think that they can get by on "feeling" and not understand how to manipulate the fretboard are never going to be able to play the guitar well.

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2,263 Reply by jerome.oneil

(16 replies, posted in Chordie's Chat Corner)

I play bass actively in a gigging band.  It is harder than guitar, for exactly the reason you mentioned.  Chords are easy.  Walking a good line in the pocket is hard.

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2,264 Reply by jerome.oneil

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Oldnewbie wrote:

I didn't know Martin made bells...

Someone does.  We checked in a bell case.  Looked just like a square mando case, but felt like it was full of bricks.  Every time we moved it we said "This is the heaviest mando in the history of music."

When the guy came to claim it, the check tag said "bells."

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2,265 Reply by jerome.oneil

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That's why I leave it to the professionals, babe. 

I lollered...

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2,266 Reply by jerome.oneil

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But the guys checking in Gibsons and Fenders and Taylors every other kind of guitar just put "guitar" down on the check.  The only ones that ensured we knew the brand was Martin owners.  It was a huge outlier on the bell curve.

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2,267 Reply by jerome.oneil

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slash1998 wrote:
Russell_Harding wrote:

slash its all BS i was only trying to get a laugh out of you if you can laugh then things are not as gloomy as they seem so dont believe a word of what i wrote .what kind of amp are you looking for? price range ect...

slash1998 wrote:

Thats hilarious. No just kidding; thats kinda sad

Something that isn't toys r us brand.... Between 100 and 200

Lots of nice 10 - 15 watt amps in that price range.

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2,268 Reply by jerome.oneil

(8 replies, posted in Bands and artists)

SRV could have tied bailing twine to a broom stick and still ripped it up.

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2,269 Reply by jerome.oneil

(240 replies, posted in Guitars and accessories)

After having played about $70,000 worth of guitars this weekend, I have dedicated my life to owning a Santa Cruz dreadnought of some variety.  It was like butter in my hands.

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2,270 Reply by jerome.oneil

(26 replies, posted in Electric)

Ah.  Then you have a different problem.

You can still go knocking on doors mowing lawns and stuff like that.   

Ask your folks.  "I'd like a new amp.  Mine is crap."

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2,271 Reply by jerome.oneil

(26 replies, posted in Electric)

Getting a job comes readily to mind.

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2,272 Reply by jerome.oneil

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SouthPaw41L wrote:

I think one might compare the Martin mindset to the Harley-Davidson mindset. A person who owns a Harley doesn't ride a motorcycle, they ride a Harley. Same thing with a Martin......................

Dude, you do not even know how accurate that statement is.  I ride a motorcycle, and have for 20 years.  One of the other boards I post on is motorcycle specific, and I made this exact same comparison there, just to see what kind of reaction it would get.

Title of that thread was "The Harley and the Martin"

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2,273 Topic by jerome.oneil

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I spent the weekend working the Wintergrass Bluegrass festival in Tacoma.  I manage the instrument check room, which operates like a coat check, only for people's guitars and banjos and fiddles and mandolins.   One of the things we do to keep things organized is to provide separate shelves for each type of instrument, and we make the guests write that down on their claim check tags.  It says "Instrument Type" right there on the tag, with a little line for them to fill in so we know.

Now, most people put down exactly that.  "Banjo."  "Guitar."  "Fiddle."  And so on.   But there is one notable exception to this.  Invariably, someone shows up with a Martin in a black hard case.  And they put "Martin" down on the tag.   When they pick it up, the tell you "It's the Martin in the black case."  I realize they don't know that I've got 30 Martins in that exact same black case,  but still. 

I found that this only applied to Martin owners.   The guy with the $20,000 gold plate pre-war Tonemaster just put "banjo."  The dude with the 1938 Martin C-1 just put down "guitar."  The dude with the custom 9 string Dobro just put down "dobro."  And so on.    But the dude with his new Martin D-28 in that black case ensured that everyone knew it was a Martin.

So why is that?

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2,274 Reply by jerome.oneil

(11 replies, posted in Acoustic)

Russell_Harding wrote:

i wish i could attend the festival i was in seattle playing with a hard rock group (high voltage) some years back on a barge at the hydroplane races i think it was lake washington but im not sure people were so stoned they were falling off the barge and the generator surged and blew out all the speakers on my four fender cabinets on the trip back to shore after the gig my amps were dropped into the lake the organizers replaced all the equipment that was a hell of a day

Yup.  That sounds like the hydro races.

Lots of drunks and loud boats going fast.

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2,275 Reply by jerome.oneil

(10 replies, posted in Chordie's Chat Corner)

You want banned songs?

Joe Hill had some banninated songs.  They shot him for them.

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