Thanks Jim. Yes the fist one is a fast version and the second was arranged by someone else for song writing comp. Got 5 stars and just fell short of semi finals,but I'm happy.     

It's Jimmy Webb for me.  I'm also very fond of motown.

Thanks peatle,I was going for a hymn sound with a touch of Irish folk.

Dirty Ed thank you your post really cheered  me up.

Great song echoing the times. I wanted to write one about the Murders of Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom but found it to gruesome to contemplate. Plus I don't think anyone would care.

I wish I could look at a photo and produce a song just like that.
I am a bit envious.     

Thanks Jim ,you've got it. I want the last A section to be a conclusion to enhance  the last B section . Got a block at the moment.  But when done will record and post.

Congratulations Brian. Just voted.. I wish for you the best of luck.     

Heres me singing Breakthrough for all that are interested and how it sounds.
Listen to Breakthrough by Ctech on #SoundCloud
https://soundcloud.app.goo.gl/f1vtu     

Thanks peatle I should have just done melody and chord . Or just piano track and vocal. Ill see what I can do. Happy New year to you and yours. We are all fine I've been visiting my 83 year old father every day since the mayhem began to keep his spirits up  I don't see my grandchildren as much as I'd like but I talk to them on phone vid calls so it better than nothing.

Thanks Jim yes another from experience sadly ,I will try to sing it at a later date. At mo working on a song with reference to the mess we are in at the moment.  Got a melody and title, just lyrics and chords to find. I hope to enter it in this years songwriting contest so taking my time.