Topic: electric guitar for an experienced acoustic

Hello everyone, tell me please about the electric guitars. I can play acoustic (self-taught, not professional, I can play the notes). I have long wanted to learn how to play an electric guitar because I listen to rock (mostly folk and heavy) and I also have a few friends who do not mind playing together. What kind of guitar you`d advise? In the price, I am particularly unlimited, but I do not intend to give huge sums. I looked at several options. I really like Yamaha what can you say about the rest?

Re: electric guitar for an experienced acoustic

I find that playing electric and playing acoustic is almost like two different instruments; acoustic is more about the woods and the tones you can achieve from that - with electric the focus is primarily on the pickups .. with an electric, expect to pay more for adding an amp and external effects - in fact, I'd probably spend half of my budget on those  ... so whatever your budget is, half it and look at guitars in that price range.

As with acoustic, it really is a case of trying out a number of guitars and seeing what 'feels' best. Sometimes looking at the brand is a hinderance unless you intend to sell it later down the track (where better know brands tend to keep their value better than unknown/lesser known brands). But you know, I still have my first decent electric I bought for $au200 a long time ago - it's not a known brand, but the neck feels really good, it doesn't get much of a play these days, but when I pull it out, it feels good (still, after all these years!!)

TLDR: budget for an amp and effects, buy what feel right, not the name on the headstock ...

Cheers

Richard

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3 (edited by alexandrkorv 2017-12-14 14:48:42)

Re: electric guitar for an experienced acoustic

neophytte wrote:

I find that playing electric and playing acoustic is almost like two different instruments; acoustic is more about the woods and the tones you can achieve from that - with electric the focus is primarily on the pickups .. with an electric, expect to pay more for adding an amp and external effects - in fact, I'd probably spend half of my budget on those  ... so whatever your budget is, half it and look at guitars in that price range.

As with acoustic, it really is a case of trying out a number of guitars and seeing what 'feels' best. Sometimes looking at the brand is a hinderance unless you intend to sell it later down the track (where better know brands tend to keep their value better than unknown/lesser known brands). But you know, I still have my first decent electric I bought for $au200 a long time ago - it's not a known brand, but the neck feels really good, it doesn't get much of a play these days, but when I pull it out, it feels good (still, after all these years!!)

TLDR: budget for an amp and effects, buy what feel right, not the name on the headstock ...

Cheers

Richard

So, the guitars themselves do not really matter? Sound and quality depends entirely on amplifiers and other devices?

Re: electric guitar for an experienced acoustic

Not necessary amps and devices more of skill and action on the frets some people can play any guitar and make it sound great (skill) others rely on effects but it still comes down to the guitar you choose and that depends on the genre of music your playing

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Re: electric guitar for an experienced acoustic

I am convinced a good guitarist can make any guitar sound good if he uses the same strings he normally uses.

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Re: electric guitar for an experienced acoustic

alexandrkorv wrote:
neophytte wrote:

TLDR: budget for an amp and effects, buy what feel right, not the name on the headstock ...

So, the guitars themselves do not really matter? Sound and quality depends entirely on amplifiers and other devices?

The guitars matter less with electric - the quality of the pickups are more important than tonewoods - effects and amps will change the original signal quite a bit.

Russell_Harding wrote:

... more of skill and action on the frets ...

And, like Russell said, the action of the frets comes into play as well - I think that comes under my summary of "how it feels for you", because if you like thin, fast necks (like Ibanez), then you'll find one that suits, but if you like chunky necks (like Gibson), you'll find one like that ... and if yoiu have a guitar that feels right to you; you'll play it more often.

Hope that clarifies, as I'm trying to be fairly generic ...

Cheers

Richard

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Re: electric guitar for an experienced acoustic

Yup, what they said.  I play both, and will say they are both animals, but of differing breeds.  It does come down to what "feels" comfortable, neck shape, weight, balance, access to the fret positions and setup.  The wood has a bit to do with sustain, as does the neck joint (bolt-on or neck-through) and the fit and mechanical connection between those parts if it is a bolt-on neck.  Unlike an acoustic, you do have options for changing pick-ups, pots, and most parts that "make" the sound, so if it isn't exactly what you had in mind, that can be changed without too much bother.  The rest is what you do with the signal that the guitar sends down the wire.  That is where effects, amplifier, and speakers come into play.  Those are the variables that as an acoustic player you are likely to be most unsure of, and there are many differing opinions on everything that makes up a particular "sound" that you are interested in producing. 

Still it all comes down to playing as many as you can get your hands on to start with, even unamplified you can get a "feel" for what you like.  Brands really don't matter, it is all workmanship and comfort.  Once you have "narrowed down" your list, then get up against a few amps and evaluate the actual sounds it makes.  I always say that it doesn't matter where the thing came from or who's badge is on the headstock, there are very good woodworkers all over the Planet, and good trees to build Guitars out of.  The rest is all manipulating the electrons.

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8 (edited by Tenement Funster 2017-12-15 09:51:30)

Re: electric guitar for an experienced acoustic

Lots of great advice from some very knowledgeable Chordians!

I've personally found that Epiphone's are exceptional quality for the money. Sound-wise, you'll need to pay attention to the difference between single-coil and humbucker pickups. The biggest adjustment you'll face when playing an electric is dealing with the extra sustain they have. You may need to learn a few string muting techniques that aren't as needful on an acoustic.

It's a lot of fun to explore new avenues in music and instruments ... enjoy the journey!

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This may a dumb question then ----
why would any one pay $2500 for a Gibson Les Paul  Goldtop  when the could buy a much less expensive guitar and just buy a couple of P90's, new strings,  and switch them out for the cheap ones ?

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Re: electric guitar for an experienced acoustic

TIGLJK wrote:

This may a dumb question then ----
why would any one pay $2500 for a Gibson Les Paul  Goldtop  when the could buy a much less expensive guitar and just buy a couple of P90's, new strings,  and switch them out for the cheap ones ?

There is a difference between a cheaper guitar and a more expensive one, but I'm assuming that the price point the OP is looking at it's not going to make a big deal ...

The build quality is usually better on higher end guitars, including small things that make it a nicer to play ... I own some expensive ones, and some cheaper ones, generally you go through a few cheaper ones to get a good feeling one, and if you buy four at $300 each, you may as well have bought one $1000 guitar ... if it's affordable to you, and it's worth that much to you ... but sometimes people start out cheaper to get a feel for it, and trade upwards when they feel ready ...

There's also a bit of ego attached to what's on the headstock, which is why the Chinese copy guitars sell ...

Cheers

Richard

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Re: electric guitar for an experienced acoustic

Tenement Funster wrote:

I've personally found that Epiphone's are exceptional quality for the money.

Yep, I'd second that ...

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Re: electric guitar for an experienced acoustic

You could put a soundhole pickup on your acoustic guitar, there are a lot of good pickups on the market that won't hurt your wallet or your acoustic.

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13 (edited by Russell_Harding 2017-12-15 17:31:38)

Re: electric guitar for an experienced acoustic

Why a Gibson Les Paul? I own one and there is no better guitar in this universe, sure it cost me( about 3 grand) but there is no guitar quite like a Les Paul for tone, action and it's awesome period. behold a Les Paul without effects straight thru an amp no reverb or other effects all the sustain comes from the guitar and of course 50 years experience.
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