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Thanks, you two! And no Classical Guitar, my friend I wasn't kidding. There are times when I don't think things through (see recent posts) these days and tend to take things literally. But don't worry! I don't go looking for a top hat when I set up my drums. (That was a joke 
)! Thanks for the visual as well. That helped a lot. I'm glad I have such understanding friends, I really am.
Your Friend
Bill
Oh!!! Yes, I sure did, Phill! Sorry, I meant to write that and forgot. Also left a note on Sound Cloud. THAT note contains the in-depth stuff. I apologize for not writing it here.
Well, bluejeep, now you're gonna have to show me or explain what you mean by "the flat body...... with the ashtray". I looked really close at Bill Kirchen's Tele, but didn't see an ashtray attached, so if you wouldn't mind?
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Yer ignrent Friend
Bill
Zurf,
Yeah, I have a "nursing team" as well who specialize in all the the things wrong with me. I think my audiologist may have to work with me to get all the wax out of my ear canal. Before I began wearing the hearing aid, I had a LOT of wax in my right ear, but I can't seem to stay ahead of the wax to keep my canal clear, so they may have to switch me to a hearing aid that mounts over the ear and let the bone back there pick up the sound.
Best wishes to your Dad, Zurf and thanks for your reply.
Bill
So here it is: A CD I have been looking for, forever. When I was a DJ on my my college radio station, we pretty much set our own format after 8 pm.
I came across it on EBay and ordered it right away and it arrived today, and yep it had that special "cut" on it right away and right away I slipped it into the tray and played it.
Back in the 70's, I remember being crazy over every song on the LP, but today everything except that one cut did nothing for me. The style was "hard rock" (it was too early for "heavy metal" just then), and by today's standards, this is a well-written and well-produced album. The band and voices were"tight", the lyrics were thought provoking and the liner notes let one know right from the beginning that this was a satirical-theatrical production.
In other words, not a thing wrong with it back then, but now, just "ho-hum".
The name of the group is called "Wilderness Road" and the album is "Sold For Prevention of Disease Only"
Has this happened to you at all?
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Bill
Bill here, just wanted to say "sorry" that it took me so long to "get" it. I now understand what y'all did and I was indeed "over-thinking" Jim's version. Sometimes I have to be slapped upside the head with a 2 x 4 to get my attention.
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Bill
I sure am glad I put that into the POEMS secion! Have y'all looked at the number of chords in that song??? Those had to be played by Manzarek only. Or maybe Krieger is just that good a guitarist, I don't know. I could play maybe all the easy chords ONLY. What do y'all think? Thanks for all the readings and comments, everyone. Now that I know Morrison has more poetry in print, I'll have to check it out.
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Bill
"The Wolf" is always a great choice, and with Clapton, it just goes to show that white boys can play the blues. That one picture liked to have got by me there, mr. badeye.
Thanks for another great one, Sir!
Bill
{b]Jim{/b],
I'd be willing to bet that Lincoln would leave a lot of evidence of having travelled over that "Road"..
Bill
Thank goodness there's that edit button. This is the third time I've had to correct the title.!
Bill Kirchen is one of the founders of "Commander Cody And His Lost Planet Airmen. Here he is performing "Hot Rod Lincoln" a favorite of mine and our friend, the late Dino48. But I suspect only a few of you may have heard it played this way: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsLdufJePz0
Bill
EDIT: For a guy who was an English major, I sure made a lot of mistakes up there! I think I got 'em all this time.
And Jim, I didn't even notice the way he said "Road" (Rod) at the beginning there. I guess I was too busy waiting for that famous riff which begins the song.
Listening to this song, I realized I had never even given this "band" (quotes used because they are much more than that). So much musicianship from these people - one can tell they didn't just it down an worked out the parts. I think there was a "spirit rock conductor" in the rehearsal room with them. Of course, I am only joking. Uriah Heep needed no such thing. I thoroughly enjoyed what I heard and watched. Thanks, TF.
Bill
Strangest guitar strap I've ever seen was made from the girth of a western saddle. This particular strap was made from rope and must have been "customized" somehow or it would have been too wide over the guitarist's shoulder.
Russell, will the machine allow you to work with leather and would you want to?
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Bill
So you just spent a few bucks to stream or play on cd an artist (s) you really like, sit back and prepare to listen to track 1. It's a slow tune and doesn't really grab me, but I decide to "wait it out"). Track 2 also is a slow tune, and it's my usual habit to stop playback and plan to come back later to finish listening.......
Time passes. (Maybe a week or two) and as I look through the music (in this case cd's) which need refiling, I see that particular album, and remembering my first listening experience, decide to skip it again, and choose something a little more upbeat.
Do I ever go back and give this artist the "listening" he or she deserves?
The quick answer is probably not, but there are so many other factors in play here. To name a couple: my age, my mood at the time, stress and the fact that not liking the first two cuts has now "imprinted" itself on my brain, which silently reminds me of the first experience and again I choose not to listen.
There are quite a few times this has happened. So many, in fact, that I marked the cd's waiting to be played.
Am I musically prejudicial?
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Bill
Thank you, Ed. A lot of folks get Memorial Day confused with Veterans Day, having wished me and other Vets, "Happy Memorial Day and thanks for your service." I usually reply with an offered handshake and, "Thank you. I was proud to have served.", discretion being....etc.
Dondra and I went to her Dad's grave (Navy) today, and on the way saw a man dressed in a red "US MARINES" t-shirt, fatigue pants and Marine fatigues cover standing on the side of the highway. Whenever a car approached, he snapped to full attention and saluted. I expect to see a story about him in this week's newspaper. I got chill bumps watching this one Marine paying his own tribute to his fallen brothers and sisters.
Bill
I was right - sort of- ....... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Fari%C3%B1a . E
Even though he was considered more of a "Protest Singer' than "Beat Poet", he performed his work, in that era (Greenwich Village) and - whether singing, being a poet or novelist , the book "Been Down So Long It Looks Like Up To Me" credits Farina as the author. He was only 29 when he died.
But the story doesn't stop there: Read the Wiki link above and you'll see why I wrote "I was right - sort of -..."
Scroll down to the novel's title, and here's the original : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZ-qmRS3-a4.
I'm thinking that the copyright wasn't renewed, and anyone who wanted to, could use it. Not sure though.
Bill
If y'all would be interested, please take another look at photo #3. Those are his dad's Harley-Davidson boots Julian is wearing. Just a side-note; when Julian came to visit us during his Summer break from school, those two were inseperable either working on or riding their mountain bicycles together during the day or watching space movies together.
During those times, I would wait "patiently' for "my" turn to be with my grandson and jam a little with the guitar and amp I had gifted him a couple of years before - for Christmas. He hadn't forgotten and we did spend a total of one hour of "private time" together before he went back home to his Mom's. I know exactly why I felt that little bit of jealousy: While Jason was growing up, his Dad was busy with his broadcast news career. I feel ashamed about those "When's it gonna be my turn?" times, but now I am happy those two enjoyed every second they had together.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUwjNBjqR-c
Bill
Nothing on St. Cloud yet I'll check on it a bit later,
Bill
Ah, okay. I have made it a habit notto look and listen until I've kicked the whole thing around in my head. I think that this time I was wrong to do that and maybe I need to do it the other way around.
Wen I graded papers, I always "experienced" the poem's or essays' purpose first, then came all of the other stuff. I can see that this won't work for me here.
I also came to the realization that I am having my own difficulties in sentence construction and before I know it, I have written a page and a half struggling to stay on point. I think that from here on out, we all consider the fact that "Ol' Bill's getting more than a little "milky in the filbert" these days, and either ignore/delete my posts or at least report them. The LAST thing I want to do is cause hurt feelings within my family. So Mea Culpa, Jim and write on, my brother. I will now go and listen and watch your video,
Thanks for understanding, Jim
Bill
FURTHER SUGGESTIONS For JIM'S SONG
Your 3rd Verse
I don't wanna mess with this one - rhyme-wise. You did a good job continuing your "narrative" about this girl, but take a look and think about the "safety words" you can choose to use or pass up., the word "but" being one. Use it or don't - up to you.
Here's what I mean: "But" like a ray of sunshine or "a" cool summer breeze. "But" and "a" being your safety words. This would also make the word "so" in the next line superfluous
I'm afraid I'm not making sense. It's getting tougher to do so these days, so ask me to clarify and I will gladly do so.
To conclude, let's take the song as a story and take a closer look at the two people involved. It's not always about the rhymes or chords, right?
1. The lady in your story has a huge problem. With one hand she's beckoning - now having become accustomed to getting those gifts he himself has admitted are barely afforded.
With the other hand she's pushing him away, but still holding that "carrot on a stick" - her. I didn't like her from the start of your story. She's got her "Sugar Daddy" in this guy, and he's probably not the only one.
2. Our "story-teller" is letting us know (not in so many words) that he's in love with her and wants to be with her under just about any circumstances. He needs help. and so does she, because I see her as a danger.
3. I'm not asking you to change anything except what I have already suggested, and that's mostly "grammar". Anything else would be censorship, no matter how were my intentions, and I don't like censorship.
4. Here on Chordie we don't discuss the psychology or philosophy of a song very often, but with these lyrics (and you're a master lyricist) you've made me not like this song and in consideration of that, I have to conclude that this isn't one of your better works.
It's probably me. At 68, I'm having problems with my thought processes. If it's not just me, then I'd like to share some further discussion (s) about this song.
On the other hand, my brother, you've succeeded in reaching one goal: You "involved" me in that tune. If I were present I'd kick that guy's butt and get him out of there so fast he'd leave skid marks.
We still friends, Jim?
Bill
Hey Jim - can I make a few suggestions.
I'm pretending you're talking to me personally and telling me about this girl, who has really impressed you, correct? The girl of your dreams?
To me your words sound like you want me to know how you feel, but are "stumbling" a bit. That's okay - nothing wrong with being a little unsure of one's self. (The guy in the song, I mean - not you personally)
(we're delving into the guy's personality, can you tell? )
In the first verse, would you consider changing the word best (smile) to sweetest smile? It just sounds like it needs another syllable.
Also, how about changing the phrasing to "She does everything well and barely has to try"?
The reason I'm making that suggestion is because the way you have it written, it's a "negative". Sound it out and you'll see what I mean: Coach To Player who missed a field goal: "You barely even tried, Craig!" So what we want to do is keep things "positive" with this girl (whom I don't like, by the way ) and convey to me how easily she handles her "challenges".
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My suggested chorus. Hopefully this will work with your chord changes.
CHORUS
I buy her everything I can afford
Make all the right moves, use all the right words
Been tryin' hard to do my best
But ya know some girls are hard to impress.
(I tried to rewrite your chorus without changing what you're "saying")
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I need to break away, but will continue with my "suggestions" (or am I nit-picking?)
We need to help this poor guy find a lady worth his attention before he goes broke (or nuts)
. LOL!
Your Friend
Bill
Wow! I can do only the most basic of coding, but even I can tell some intensive work went into the new Chordie and I will look forward to using it. The "preferred" version of songs will be a favorite, because it will make it easier to find and work with. This site is the only internet "forum" site I use. No FB, Twitter or the like. The "family" aspect (for me) also simplifies my means of communication.
Also with my short-term memory problems, any kind of improvement helps me too.
I thank you for all you do for us - musicians, poets, luthiers and students - All of us benefit from the site and one only has to create a membership and begin learning.
Thank You
Bill
TIGLJK. TF et al.; I sure enjoyed reading about the different styles of guitar-making, and you're exactly right, TF about the marriage of wood and music. Whenever I'd get a catalogue like the one from Musicians; Friend I remember thinking, "Why do I need to spend $3,000 for an instrument that sounds and plays the same?" I'm getting away from that kind of thinking as I watch and listen to the luthiers.
A couple of stories that, while not about guitar-making are appropriate just the same.
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Pope Sixtus iv, impatient to have the Sistine Chapel ceiling finished as quickly as possible, asked Michelangelo when he would finish. "When I can", answered the great artist, I imagine it would be the same answer given by any of the luthiers we're discussing here.
A young man had applied and received a job in The US Treasury. One day he asked his supervisor about the advancement opportunities. Pointing to a rolling bin which contained stacks of bills, the supervisor answered, "If, after two weeks, this still looks like money to you, I'd consider another line of work." Here again, another example of "vision failure". If one cannot envision a beautiful guitar made from that piece of wood one is looking at, fergeddabout it.!
Bill
excellent words Bill,great to see some of your writings on Chordie.
Thank you, Brian. Morrison considered himself more of a poet than a song-smith, but "LA Woman" reamins my favorite Doors album. Even though I think he may have "stolen" that line about being down so " _____ long, that it looks like up to me". It may have come from one of the "Beat Poets" of the 60's or one of the older blues artists. I tend to think it's the former.
I purposely didn't google it, because I want to see if I guessed correctly. LOL!
Bill
Do you notice how quiet-natured and patient those folks are? I bet in real life it either takes a lot of effort to make them angry or very little effort. Know what I mean?
I think I'd rather just sit in the shop, watch, listen and help clean up.
Bill
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