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Hello Cyclops,

As JohnCross21 has already stated you are trying to run before you can walk.

Try going to the public songbooks and searching the beginners books. There will be songs in there that you know that are not too difficult to play and practice on those. Get your fingers strenthened and your chord changes crisp. It will take time and experience before you are able to work out the chords by ear.

As for the comment from Krhoades, well heaven only knows what he means. All are welcome to Chordie, even those with insuffucient intelligence to post a sensible and meaningful reply.

Roger

I have to say that I agree with Tunedeaf. I see little point in a songbook that is merely a collection from the indexed songs. All it shows is someone's taste in music. I want to see songs with the chords listed all the way through as it is very difficult to play unless you already know it, there is a lot of 'chaff' in most of the indexed songs and some do have errors in that need correcting.

I stopped looking in the public songbooks for a long time until Pere gave us an "edited" option so I can now sort the songbooks by the amount of editing that has been done. I now find the songbooks a useful reference and I will be adding to mine as soon as I have the time.

Roger

Hi James,

Another fine offering from you. Definitely a must for recording please find the time to give it the works. I guess I will 'Badeye' this one too.

Roger

Hey Donna,

I like this too.

The only make up I like to wear is lipstick but it has to be applied from a pretty lady's lips.

Roger

Hi Hopeful

Sorry for the delay in replying but I have been moving and have not had too much time to be on here.

The answer is yes the original sheet music is C to Fm.

Take care,

Roger

Hi Phil,

I am glad you answered that one. I have been wondering ever since Moddish asked the question.

Thank you,

Roger

Hi Bobby Moore,

Welcome to the Chordie Forum. However I must point out to you that your praise is to the wrong person.

Pere (admin@chordie) is the father of the site, it is his brainchild and he who has done all the hard work in making the site what it is. Myself and the other Moderators help keep the postings in right sections and eliminate spam.

It is, as you have discovered, a brilliant site, with many knowledgable and helpful members so please bring your friends along to join in the discussions.

Roger

Hi nz,

Unfortunately I have just moved and my recording gear is not set up yet or I could show you better than a written explanation. I will do this when I can for you.

In the meantime here is a thought for you.

I would like to bet that there have been many times you have been listening to some music and you have beaten a rhythm on your lap or a table top with your hands. That is all that strumming is, not some fixed mathematical formula, but something that you feel. So instead of beating your right hand on a table top you are rubbing it down and up across your guitar strings in time to the music. As I said earlier start with just a steady rhythm before putting in up strokes and double time downs.

If you know three strumming pattern that is three more than me. I will not be restricted by trying to play in a fixed manner, I will do it my way as the mood suits.

Don't think about it - feel it.

Roger

Hi James,

I can really relate to this one. The problem is the body gets older but the mind does not.

It is a very good song so I think I will 'Badeye' it.

Roger

Hi nzelectric,

I have just noticed another thread where you are concerned about strumming patterns and I believe you are relatively new to the guitar, so my advice to you is not to get too bogged down trying to copy someone else's version of the song.

I have been playing for a great number of years and I never use the identical strumming patern each time I play a song and that included the ones I have written too. I play what I feel.

Even if you are a real beginner and have to look and place each finger sepeately for each chord, you can still play a song. You sing it and just give one strum for each chord change. Singing it (however good or bad will help get the timing right) and as you get better you can put in two strums and evenually be able to play with both up and down strums. I suppose that is a long winded way of saying practice, practice, practice.

You mentioned James Blunt's "You're Beautiful", if you can sing the song identical to him then I suppose there is an argument that you need to play it identical to him. If you can't sing it identical there is no need to play identical.

There have been several threads concerning strumming patterns and it is my opinion that there is no set pattern to any song as it is strummed as it is felt, to me the only thing that is constant is the number of beats in a bar and the speed you wish to play the song.

The most important thing is to enjoy yourself playing and who knows, your version of a song may be better than the original.

Roger

Hi Boxer,

I used a picture cropping programme to reduce Adam Ant, my avatar, to size.

Roger

Hey Donna,

There is nothing wrong with love songs, after all love makes the world go round. Go into any music store and look how many compilation CD have love songs in the title. The romantic in all of us appreciate them for our nearest and dearest.

Roger