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It was about two years after I took back up the bass that I joined a praise band that played live weekly. It's been a little over two years that I've been teaching myself guitar. I did some campfire playing for about twenty people at about nine months and was awful but the folks seemed to like it (it is possible that they were inebriated considering the venue alongside the New River in a private campground and the timing of being mid-summer sunset on a Friday).
- Zurf
I play by ear and they are starting to get sore!
Ozy - If you're old enough and don't have any biologic or excessive habitual reasons to avoid it, that stuff is readily available.
- Zurf
Welcome to Chordie.
Sorry, I saw the topic title and didn't respond because I don't particularly care for that song and assumed that you were asking for the chords or the strum pattern (which you were) and I wouldn't be able to answer it.
As a general issue, I don't much care for the "real" patterns. I play everything my own way, trying to work in some familiar elements but not overly worried about it. That said, it wouldn't bother me a lick if you did "Wind Beneath the My Wings" as a heavy metal song complete with cannons and trash can lids. So, I'm not really a good person to ask for patterns. Just experiment and do what sounds good TO YOU and forget about how Bette Midler did it. Especially considering that that is a heavily orchestrated song with a lot of production work done to it, it's going to be next to impossible for you to make a single acoustic guitar sound the same.
As far as your questions on the chords, something isn't ringing right but I don't know precisely what it is. I suggest perusing through the Music Theory forum. You won't see many posts from me there, but I sure do like to read the material presented there. We are blessed with some knowledgeable people willing to share, and able to share in a way that's understandable.
As far as what to expect, I think lack of response to a single post is a poor indicator one way or the other. Stick with us, keep reading and keep asking.
- Zurf
What's wrong with playing an A with just the middle finger?
It ticks off the drummer.
- Zurf
Thanks for the laugh Zurf and by the way try playing a A chord (2nd fret open A) with your fingers this way 1st finger on the 3rd string 2nd fret 2nd finger on the 4th string 2nd fret and the 3rd finger on the 2nd string 2nd fret just for the heck of it
That's how I do A. It crosses the fingers, but it's easier. What I'm thinking is to do the same cross, but use the middle, ring, and pinky instead of the index, middle, ring. That way my index finger would be freed up either for doing a barre and getting to a B (unlikely as that may seem) or for waggling at some naughty person in the circle.
To get back on topic, doing this would make it easier to do an A/D chord as well, assuming I ever wanted to play an A/D chord.
- Zurf
Zurf wrote:It's wasteful showmanship. It was new and unusual when Daltry did it. - Zurf
sorry Zurf, it was Pete Townshend that did it.
Who?
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Practice is the only solution. I hate the ones where you have to mute a string between other strings to get the chord. I suppose Russell the mutant can play those too.
- Zurf
I hear a lot of fuss over the B chord on here. It isn't any different the Bb, C, D, E!! They take a little bit of practice, but they are very doable. Practice, practice, practice!!
You are entirely mistaken. The B chord is evil. It's inhuman. If more people understood guitar chords, playing a B chord would be a circus trick akin to those guys who leap twenty feet in the air on a pogo stick, do a couple summersaults, and land with the pointy end of the pogo stick in a Dixie cup. B chords are the real reason Rome fell. B chords will get your cat pregnant (even the male ones) and steal your socks. They'll return your car on empty and leave the lights on to drain your battery. B chords NEVER put the seat down. They're rotten to the bone (even though they don't have bones).
- Zurf
I play the "evil B" with my 1st finger barring the second fret and I use my 4th finger instead of my third on the 4th fret for the D G and B strings its less strain on my wrist and hand and thanks for the comments
resprod wrote:Russel:
Listened to you song on YouTube. Very nice. Great feeling. I do have to agree with Zurf on the "B' chord. Those Barr chords are going to be my nemsis.
You know, I wonder if I can do that and use the ring finger to just give some added pressure to the pinky the way I use my middle finger to give my index finger some extra pressure on an F#m. Strength is what I lack. And also flexibility and talent. And determination. But with strength, talent, flexibility, and determination, I'm sure that I could play a B. In the meanwhile, B7 is an open chord and easy to get to...
I've been trying to relearn the A using the ring, middle, pinky (yes, out of order) instead of the middle, index, ring (again, I know its out of order but for some reason crossing the fingers makes it easier to get to the strings for me) so that I can get a B by playing an A up further and using the index to barre. It's not easy to relearn something like that. That's where the strength, talent, flexibility, and determination come in.
- Zurf
If you like that 3/4 old-style country songs, try Russell's "A Few To Many". It's a terrific old-school style drinkin' and cheatin' country song, though he did have the shear cussedness to slip a stinking "B" chord into it. Freakin' mutant.
He posted it on the Songwriting forum here a long while ago. I don't know how long those things are archived, but you may be able to find it using a search.
Russell plays it with all sorts of wonderful licks and fills, but I play it with a simple bass strum strum, bass strum strum.
- Zurf
That's terrible news. I'm so sorry for you to hear it. I don't know what else to do, so I'll say a prayer for his soul's peace and for the worst pain of your grief to be brief.
- Zurf
I am however, 100% for the smashing and demolition of ALL drum machines and sequencers..............
Second that.
- Zurf
Good luck.
I've not no idea as to the answers to any of your questions, so I'll just say welcome and congratulations on getting into the competition.
- Zurf
It's wasteful showmanship. It was new and unusual when Daltry did it. Now it's blase. So it's not just wasteful showmanship, it's poor showmanship. Not a fan. However, it's their show and their guitar. If they think smashing a guitar makes for a better show, they're welcome to do so.
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Although going to a salon may work well for some, I don't think Zurfs' fishin' and campin' buddies would, or could never let him live that one down. (haha)
I could go to one of those fancy salons and get fishing flies painted onto them! But then my co-workers would have something they wouldn't let me live down.
To Jaygordon's credit, I've been considering a nail treatment from the grocery store. I wouldn't want anything shiny, but I seem to recall back in college when we played the "Reva" drinking game during Guiding Light (you had to drink every time and for the whole time Reva cried - good for a mid-day buzz for sure) that there was stuff sold that's supposed to keep nails from chipping and breaking. Now, that was decades ago and as already mentioned I wasn't in a state known for maximizing the accuracy of recollection. Still, it may be worth a trip over to the pharmacy. Fishing buddies could razz me. I'd just stuff cotton in their ears or sound an air horn in their face at the campfire that night so they couldn't hear me play. Nah. They'd be lining up to razz me the next night to keep from having to hear it again.
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Zurf, when I said I was up to 2 packs a day when I was trying to quit smoking - it wasn't cigarette's. I was chewing 2 packs of Lee press on nails per day 'cause I did not have any of my own fingernails left.
nela
LOL! That sailed right over my head. Very funny.
- Zurf
I continue on in virulent denial of time's passage. In my mind, it's still 1994 and I'm still strong, handsome, and arthritis is just a concept.
- Zurf
Thanks all for your suggestions. I'll look into those flesh tone thingies. If I can get a good ringing tone, not cut up my cuticles, and still feel the string I'll be pleased. I like flesh on string for a nylon string, but with a steel-string folk guitar I want that sucker to ring out and flesh on string is too soft for my taste, style of music, and preference. It sounds real good on minor tunes played on a nylon string, though.
NELA - Good luck with that right hand. On the other thing, you have intrigued me as to how Lee press-on nails can possibly have anything to do with quitting smoking. As far as 2 packs a day, were those 2 packs of nails or 2 packs of cigs?
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Go and meet them. It's just a get to know you session. See whether you like them, whether they like you, and whether if you like each other all around whether or not your playing styles mesh.
Find out that it doesn't work is as good of a result as finding out that it does. If it doesn't work, you'd have not enjoyed playing with them and so it's good to know that right up front. If it does work out, then maybe you can play with them and enjoy it. Either way, it's a positive outcome by either doing something fun or avoiding something unfun.
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I keep breaking my nails. I have tried the metal fingerpicks that slide over your fingertips and cannot stand them. Not only do they cut into my cuticles, but I can't feel the strings so I wind up picking wrong strings, or picking right strings too loud or too soft. They and me are not a good marriage.
I am not going to get Lee press-on nails.
So, I would like some suggestion for either fingerpicks with feel, or for how to keep my fingernails strong enough not to break so often. I don't need very long nails to play, but when I have to keep trimming back to the quick and growing them out it gets a bit frustrating.
I suppose I could learn to use a pick, but I like the fingerstyle. Flat-picking is in my future, but for now I'm enjoying learning the style. It's just keeping my nails and/or picks that's the trick.
Any help is appreciated.
- Zurf
I was screwing around with trying to play some fiddle tunes as fingerpick tunes and trying to do a decent alternating bass on a C chord. Well usually I'd alternate between the A and D strings while holding the C chord. Well that works OK, but wasn't the sound I was looking for. I'm wondering, how do I get a G bass note for alternating in a C chord? Um, duh, move your ring finger over to the E string from the A string you dope. So, yeah, I'm beginning to come to the realization that I don't need to hold the ENTIRE chord down while playing, but just be fingering the particular string that I'm picking at the moment.
You know, maybe I should actually get an instructor. The one I've got seems to be a bit of an idiot, which is the danger of being self taught.
- Zurf
Not quite instant kharma.
My resolution is to catch a fish. However, as a rule, I do not fish in elevators.
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