Cheers Zurf where would we be without bureaucratic spelling. Here in NZ what they do with government departments is they change the name of them to make them sound more efficient and devise more rules to make them even more inefficient. If the public gets too upset with our bureaucracy our politicians love to set up expensive committees and inquiries.They put out reports change the name of things and carry on just as inefficient as before.

TF , Excellent song choice big trawlers and commercial fishing fleets, have all but destroyed the livelihood of the smaller in-shore fishermen here in New Zealand also.

I think war might be a bit better if we still had the old fashion knghts going into battle. No modern weapons just swords and daggers and whatever else they used. They conducted themselves according to the Code of Chivalry, which stressed courtly etiquette and valour in battle. That would leave the rest of us to get on with our lifes while they fight the battles  very fairytale and unrealistic of course.  Song attached below..
Camelot (Knights of the Round Table)  - Monty Python and the Holy Grail
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9wdYy3tCm4     

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Cheers CG Bonnie has a great voice I also love it when she does this duo attached below with Norah Jones.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzDUi_L … mp;index=3     

Cheer Zurf That is a great bit of Johnny Cash I enjoyed that. .
A fireman, stoker or watertender, is a person whose occupation it is to tend the fire for the running of a boiler, heating a building, or powering a steam engine. Much of the job is hard physical labour, such as shoveling fuel, typically coal into the boiler's firebox.  On steam locomotives the title fireman is usually used, while on steamships and stationary steam engines, such as those driving saw mills, the title is usually stoker (although the British Merchant Navy did use fireman). The German word Heizer is equivalent and in Dutch the word stoker is mostly used too. The United States Navy referred to them as watertenders.
There were approximately 176 stokers on board the Titanic to keep boilers running.  Short video attached below about that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1gyA3MOIwo&t=41s


Back when times were tough people would  search the side of railway tracks for coal fallen from trains to heat their stoves and homes. Apparently some of the firemen  on trains would deliberately shovel some some of the coal on to the tracks meant for the train boilers to help the poor out. Here is Dave Gunning singing about his grandfather shoveling some coal onto the tracks.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7nLTnzTaw4

Dave Gunning - Coal From The Train.

Cheers Bill The lift song a good find. Brothels here in New Zealand use to be known as knock shops. If a woman said she had been knocked up it meant she was pregnant.

EB, Today instead of the Ministry of free speech we have the Ministry Of Hyperbole


TF great choice of song. As a kid the first horse I learnt to ride on was an old draught horse called Old John. He was slow and placid and loved to be groomed. To me Clydesdale horses pulling carts are an impressive sight.

Here in NZ when we use to call long distance we had to go through a telephone operator. We dont need them now. Here is a telephone song I like.
Operator - Jim Croce

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RA4MykPm4s


Here below  is a clip about the worlds last telegram. When I was kid we use to dread the telegram boy knocking on the door as quiet often telegrams delivered sad news.  Good part of weddings back in the old  days was when they read telegram messages from far away of people who couldn’t be at the wedding.

World's Last Telegram Message to Be Sent
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvaDGW78f2Y

I love this song Morse Code with references to old forms of long distant communication. Pigeons and Morse Code to deliver words across long distance.

Morse Code - Reina del Cid and Josh Turner

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBcr4LMF3mc

Cheers Phill Here in  Wellington we use be dependent on the tram in many areas as a means of transport, but gradually city planners began to realise that their days were numbered. Many of Wellington's streets were very narrow by Australasian standards and large trams lumbering down the centre-line of the road didn't mix well with increasing numbers of cars. Working on the  tram were conductors and a driver. Like your clippies the the conducter would ring the bell ding ding  so the driver new when to move the tram on from a stop and yell out  "hold tight please" . They took the trams of the roads in 1964 and replaced them with buses that didnt have conductors just drivers.

TF thank you for the two songs about workers and also the traffic control new technology video. I see now they are developing robotic technology to pick fruit I will attach a video of one picking apples here in New Zealand.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhswzqyVuLw

EB  Will Rogers quote  “Common sense ain't common.”


DE I love that James River Blues song  I guess many of the Boatmen jobs or Ferrymen as Kiwis call them on rivers around the USA were lost with more bridges been constructed across rivers. Most people here in New Zealand live on the two main Islands the North and the South Island. We are reliant on Ferrys to get us and our vehicles and freight from North to South video attached.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lR_L5k4rpu0

Milk was delivered to houses in New Zealand cities and towns until the mid-1990s, when it gradually stopped. Now people get their own milk from shops. There use to be a saying if you were differant to your father they would say “ Your obviously the milkmans son”.  Here is a song attached  about a milkman The fastest Milkman In The West.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8e1xvyTdBZI     

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Beamer your poem takes me back to a time many years back  and a similar situation with me feeling like  I had been hit by a train but also knowing that in the depth of my pain I would find a good place eventually to be. Reading your words I can feel there is a good positivity pushing you on. A very moving piece of writing. Stay strong.     

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Excellent thanks TF. for introducing me to Pierre Bensusan.     

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TF I am loving this thread. Hipgnosis design group created some of the most innovative and surreal cover art of the 1960s, 70s, and early 80s for the biggest names of the era―Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin, Wings, Yes, Genesis, 10cc, Peter Gabriel, Bad Company, Syd Barrett, and Black Sabbath, to name just a few. The sublime prism cover for Pink Floyd’s The Dark Side of the Moon continues to be one of the most pervasive images in all popular culture. Hipgnosis’s highly conceptual approach and graphic appeal earned them five Grammy nominations for cover design, and they profoundly influenced not only the history of music, but also all other creative fields from advertising to fashion.  I always loved the Album cover photos on 10cc  How Dare You Album which they created,
Storm Thorgerson, was the main man behind the album cover design
The characters in the split of  Two photo’s on the cover involved a couple that appear in both shots. On the bottom split of the cover they appear , in the desk photo of a smooth businessman sitting at a desk talking on the phone. On the top photo there is a photo of blonde lady where we see them getting out of the car. Apparently the sad blonde lady in the foreground is a gin soaked housewife, wasting away in rich suburbia, whilst her smooth businessman husband works too hard and consequently neglects her. Helen  Keating was hired to be the housewife in the photo dressed in a housecoat gripping a phone in gin-soaked misery while talking on the phone. In an interview she said “ I just had to pose with lots of fake tears, like someone had just had a go at me over the phone.”   In my opinion it was a very clever piece of photography and to get the people to pose perfectly in the right setting  was genius.  Hipgnosis broke up in the beginning of the ´80s. Storm Thorgerson it founder died back in 2013

Hipgnosis was an English art design group based in London that specialised in creating cover art for the albums of rock musicians and bands. Notable commissions included work for Pink Floyd, T. Rex, the Pretty Things, Black Sabbath, UFO, 10cc, Bad Company, Led Zeppelin, AC/DC, Scorpions, Yes, The Nice, Emerson, Lake & Palmer, Def Leppard, Paul McCartney & Wings, the Alan Parsons Project, Genesis, Peter Gabriel, Electric Light Orchestra, the Police, Rainbow, Styx, Pezband, XTC and Al Stewart.
Hipgnosis consisted primarily of Cambridge natives Storm Thorgerson and Aubrey Powell, and later Peter Christopherson. The group dissolved in 1983, though Thorgerson worked on album designs until his death on 18 April 2013, and Powell works in film and video, most notably with Paul McCartney, The Who, and Monty Python's Flying Circus, and is the creative director for both Pink Floyd and its member David Gilmour.

Storm Elvin Thorgerson (28 February 1944 – 18 April 2013) was an English Graphic and music video director. He created work for artists including Pink Floyd. Led Zeppelin.Phish, Black Sabbath,Peer Gabreil, The Alan ParsonProject,Genesis, Yes, Muse and Ween.    I would post a picture of the 10cc How Dare You album cover but unfortunately I dont know how to do that.

I was wondering if people on here have songs they listen to about jobs of old?. I will attach a song about Knocker-uppers.
A knocker-up, sometimes known as a knocker-upper, was a profession in Britain and Ireland that started during and lasted well into the Industrial Revolution, when alarm clocks were neither cheap nor reliable, and to as late as the beginning of the 1920s. A knocker-up's job was to rouse sleeping people so they could get to work on time
The knocker-up used a baton or short, heavy stick to knock on the clients' doors or a long and light stick,often made of bamboo, to reach windows on higher floors. At least one of them used a pea-shooter. In return, the knocker-up would be paid a few pence a week. The knocker-up would not leave a client's window until they were sure that the client had been awoken.
A knocker upper would also use a 'snuffer outer' as a tool to rouse the sleeping. This implement was used to put out gas lamps which were lit at dusk and then needed to be extinguished at dawn.
There were large numbers of people carrying out the job, especially in larger industrial towns such as Manchester. Generally the job was done by elderly men and women but sometimes police constables supplemented their pay by performing the task during early morning patrols.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTNl6QNZyxQ




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOWhdm7Glrc

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Bill my Chordie brother always wonderful to have you pop in.
Love to you and Dondra.
Maree and Pete     

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Nice one Bill I love that style of playing.     

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Cheers Phill and Easybeat you both are good men, a drunk man’s words are a sober man’s thoughts.

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Phill your an excellent musician and singer I love listening to your recordings.     

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Jim you and your wife are blessed and that is one great song.     

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People are living longer and living more of their life in better health than before,yet we are constantly been told that all the things we enjoy are bad for us. So I guess this unhealthy world is good for you. Just like any other muscle in the body, the brain requires exercise to keep it strong and healthy, so the phrase “use it or lose it” is particularly apt when it comes to your mind. Research has shown that listening to or playing music can reduce anxiety, blood pressure, and pain as well as improve sleep quality, mood, mental alertness, and memory. Music therapy is widely implemented in general health care in the Netherlands, so it’s unsurprising that a group of researchers from the country set out to explore the link between music practice and blood pressure. They studied three guitarists and found that each patient who practiced for over 100 minutes a day showed a significant drop in blood pressure and a lower heart rate compared to those who didn’t. I asked a friend of mine who plays piano about 2  to 3 hours a day if he thought if it is good for his brain. He tells me it has been good for remembering music but hasn’t helped his poor memory in other areas. I guess everything is in the mind. When I think I am making music my wife tells me I am just making noise. I wonder why is Repetitive Strain Injury  such a chronic problem among classical players within the music world ? Debilitating pain when I  play guitar or piano has meant I don’t play much now days. So I guess we can’t generalise about whats good for everyone. In this era of political lies I love the way politicians around the world use scientific theory not fact on whats not good for us as another way of taxing everyday people. Back to music I find there are songs I respond to emotionally because they are part of   previous chapters in my life. When I was a child  staying with my grandparents whenever they sang a song together I could feel the power of their love for each other. It was an incredible joy that would come over me and yet they were songs I wouldn’t have listened to in other circumstances.     

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Good One I enjoyed that song Zurf. I always thought Nitty Gritty Dirt Band did the best recording of Mr Bojangles,  I will attach a song by a local group called Fourmyula. The Fourmyula were a New Zealand rock group formed in 1967. Ten of their fourteen singles reached the New Zealand Top 20. This is a song they wrote about Otaki a little town about fifty miles north of where I live.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgpUEDjLuJI&t=19s     

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TF that is a brilliant piece of writing. I went to a funeral a while back where the son of the man who had died said one of his proudest days was when he was twenty five and his dad let him for the first time  become part of his circle who met at a coffee shop once a week. He said something along the lines of to sit and be part of this group made him feel like he truely had become a man in his fathers eyes.     

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For most of my working life I was working in the printing industry so album covers and also band poster are peices of art that I love. There are many album covers that I like to many to mention. But the two that always stood out to me was the Beatles Sgnt Pepper cover and also Jethro Tulls Thick As A Brick.  I  love covers and poster designed by Roger Dean.

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Good man CG.     

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Excellent song Jim I left you a comment on Soundcloud.     

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Strong lyrics Jeff well written.     

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It has made me sad we can't no longer claim to be a safe country to live in compared with other parts of the world.     

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I enjoy looking in on chordie and have on here met many good people. I am not a person that looks at chordie every day or even every week only because there are other things going on in my life which is no reflection on Chordie or those interested in music.  Most of my online communication is email with people that I have met physically so I guess I am not that good good at the web site thing.
The major disadvantage for me of online relationships and communication is that there is no body language to read or  the experience of bouncing ideas instantly while sitting around a table ..Sometimes an expression on a person face says more than words. Sometimes I don’t post thoughts on chordie because I know that due to the fact people who haven’t met me in person could misunderstand what I mean or are trying to say. The positive of chordie is  we can take our angst and difficult emotions and do something positive with them, such as write poetry or songs. The same as we can use it as a sounding board for writing about our differant observation on life or experiences. I think differance between playing a sport like tennis and music is that  sport  is usually  a straight out competition. Music mostly  is about making something enjoyable or challenge peoples thoughts  and  is not always  something that is built around winning and losing.
In regards to the terrible shootings down in Christchurch it has shocked our nation as we tend to think down here we can escape those sort of events by our distance from the rest of the big wide world.. The truth is no where in the world can escape someone who is crazy. The killers attempt to divide our nation has done the opposite and made us more united.
Phill you are not a boring person and your posts I enjoy.

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Greetings  PrineFan,  John Prine is playing a concert here in our little city of Wellington, New Zealand tonight Saturday 2nd March.. Unfortunately for me a family commitment means  I wont be there.

Neo that Kylee photo gave me a good laugh. I see the Proclaimers are going to be playing a concert in Perth May 30th.

Zurf I just checked out Rocky Top  on Youtube I love their harmonies and fast moving banjo. Thank you for introducing me to that song and the Osborne Brothers.

Here is an attachment John Prine and Iris DeMent performing Milwaukee Here I Come. A song I like.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_siuu6eu6k

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That is a good poem. In a storm we  see the bad bits after a storm we then can reflect on the good bits and the positive outcomes. I went through a terrible break up years ago with the progress of time it put me in the good place I am today.