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It had something, seeing a drum solo for 20 minutes, see the BICEPS size of the late "BONZO" Bonham, if you have the last DVD already a few years ago.
The strange thing about this DVD is that you can clearly see that Jimmy Page was producing this.
ON 30 minutes:
- 15 minutes PAGE
- 9 minutes PLANT
- and 3 minutes for Jones and Bonham (he seemed to have a Keith Moon character)
Watch that video, or dvd. But I don't expect tha those times will return, OR maybe no band takes the risk????

Maybe it is better to switch to guitars and accesories

Well Badeye, since I discovered CHORDIE, I have to say that my progress has improved a lot. I am a lot more fascinated, playing guitar. If I see NOW what I learned on 10 months, I can't believe the progress I made. By reading topics, writing topics, reading answers AND listening to advises it is as told almost unbelievable. I even learned some finger picking, but I still remain to much, a "plectrum" player, having an own style. My style is difficult to explain. I use many chords, switching fast from 1 chord to another, I am trying to change this, and the result is 2 songs in stead of one, BUT I STILL USE the same style. I don't know how to call this style, it is a combination of rhythm, and riffs and licks, and strumming, I block the strings in 50% of what I play, giving me, this is not objective, a special approach. But I like it, in combination with licks , strum-block-strum-strum-block. I know you asked "since a year or two", but I wanted you to know that even playing since 30 years, I made more progress now, than the last 5 years. I agree practice is the key, but it can work in "reverse too"making you (in fact me) in stead of loving to play, an aversion to play. I need still to find a balance, and I learned 1 thing, don't cross your limit. Today, maybe 30 minutes, tomorrow maybe 90 minutes.
VERY INTERESTING TOPIC, I HOPE TO SEE A LOT OF ANSWERS, so this is my answer badeye.

I always add: you have to know a melody. Knowing a melody is making it quit easier. I also never followed music class, and will it still be useful, being almost 52, and playing since 30 years?
One of my points is: the better you play, the better you can find the right chords listening to a song, and improving your skills by play-a-long.

Last Rebel, I don't why Christmas is so important. It is a fact that some people get "aggressive" by reading this. When someone dies, they send a letter to the family and friends of the deceased and if there name is not in that "already sad" letter, or not in a correct ranking, they are angry.
I am a Christian, maybe not practising, but too much events are making profit using these days as an excuse. I agree, people selling Christmas products, have to make a living too. But, as far as I remember, wasn't it Jesus, who "removed" traders out of a temple? I don't speak like "in our time", those days are gone, and we have to adapt, our kids are spoiled too much, can you blame them, it is all a kind of combination: publicity, marketing....And those Gospel Songs, it is strange, for us, in Europe, because we don't have this phenomenon. A swinging and rocking priest, who sings (?) a line and followed by hallelujahs and praise the Lord. Isn't that a typical USA tradition?
On 6th December, we have also a big day for kids: St. Nicholas, and your Santa is in fact the same as ours on 06/12. The Santa is busy to become a real worldwide business, in our country too and for the parents, it start to be an extremely expensive month, here: St Nicholas + Santa+New year.

Dan, I didn't know that site, and if you go to esnip.com, it is confusing, but I am really glad it's a nice site. One thing I still don't understand is the way of listening.to your songs.

Listen to the advise of SouthPaw, he is the right man on the right place.
All I know is that there are, included in some magazines you get a CD with an opportunity to play.
I am not sure if you can start from a certain song, deleting, or at least trying to minimalise "the extra's" using an equaliser, or a PC program.
There is Band-in-a box, and audacity.

I mentioned that it wouldn't surprise me that there are people in the USA, named head.
I looked, it took me a while, but AFFIRMATIVE, there are at least 30 family names HEAD.
So I really should be concerned to use a common name: DICK. And now ladies and gentlemen, here he is the famous D.Head. Check it out, I can't remember the site, but I googled using family names like HEAD.
Also in the USA, a lot of women take the name of their husband, and they loose probably their own identity, or am I wrong?
I always have fun with a certain planet, in other languages they haven't the accent to speak about the same planet.
Bonedaddy, what you tell is remarkable, I travelled once from Chicago to New Orleans, by car, also Nashville and Memphis. VERY STRANGE FOR US: Somewhere in MISSOURI you really notice a Northern American accent and 5 miles more to the south, a Southern Accent.

aj1 I agree with you. An own song, is still very personnel, and I do agree that such a book can be helpful, but it ain't writing a song. In fact I have NO RIGHT TO JUDGE A BOOK, MEDICAL PROBLEM, if you don't know what it means. I compare this ALWAYS with a Catholic Priest, who is not allowed to marry, but who teaches about a matrimony. Giving critics is normal these days: you write a book, comment and critics, you play in a movie, same problem, you write a song, they will judge you too, and they start talking about the "meaning of your lyrics". That can give us real funny situations, like A WHITER SHADE OF PALE" by PROCOL HARUM. They searched and searched, even giving comments, on lyrics who are totally "insane", these lyrics meant nothing. What about Obladi-Oblada?

ShadyWilbury, I have noticed that your taste and conviction is similar to mine. George is one of the most underestimated song writers, as guitar player too. Do you think that Eric Clapton would have played with George when he should be a lousy guitar player?
About a hard topic, it is a very difficult one, their songs are evolving every album. It is IMPOSSIBLE TO COMPARE "She loves you, yeah, yeah" with a song like "LET IT BE" That song is on one of the lists called the best Beatle song. Boxer you really did me a favour answering here, because I have the same feeling. About albums, most people write the "White Album" after asking the best Beatles Album. The beatles are for me not ONE band, but a dozen of bands, just see their evolution. I really don't know other groups who can tell this. The WHO, is still the WHO, and back in the sixties, you were or a BEATLES or a STONES fan. The STONES have great songs, but you can't compare them with the Beatles

I know that such a book exists. Will it add an extra value too? Making a song has to come from the heart. I believe that you can find a lot of useful information, and I'll try googling: making a song.