Tuning Problems

Your original nut is more than likley plastic not bone. MIM Fenders are made there because of labor cost.(ie: made in Mexico) Which kind of nut did you replace it with (brand and material). If you used an Earvana intonataion nut your sound will change. Is your guitar set up? Try a action set up and a graphite nut it may help. Your string brand may have also changed manufacturing techniques or materials of construction. Try DR's I have good luck with them. Also keep in mind that the wood of the guitar has alot to do with your tone but also the effects and amp rig. Let me know how it goes.

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Could it be that the tone you like is the sound of your strings going slightly out of tune as you play?  <img src="images/smiley_icons/icon_confused.gif" border=0 alt="Confused">

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One thing that I forgot to add and jaygordon75 pointed out is the use of your tremelo. I thought about it the next day after my original posting. If your using it alot then you do need a good original floyd rose, kahler or wilkerson with a locking nut.
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Great advice.  If you have a whammy bar and you don't have a good bridge, you have no chance of staying in tune even if you don't use it.  Definately get a floyd rose or something like that

Um, anybody had experience with roller nuts? Or Floyd Rose?

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Remeber Hendrix, Val Halen had problems with tremolo bars in the past.

First, did you look at guitar neck to make sure it isnt warped, or back of the guitar to see maybe if the springs for the tremolo bar are not worn. The nut maybe needing of replacement, but if the repaire less than 100 dollars fixed it.  I have Mexican telecaster had no problems with that for the last 7 years,

I have played stratocasters, and the temebolo bars sucked on the squires to American made unless you buy a good floyd rose locking unit for it. Still, a locking unit does not grauntee no problems, and tuning with locking units is harder.

My advice look for the simple adjustments, and replace, the nut, springs on the stratocaster, and readjust the bridge, neck to a little bit.
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Hey Gizmo, Read the previous threads checking the action and nut has been suggested. #1 the springs on the back of the tremelo are there for tension on the bridge they are not for the bar. THe bar acts as a lever to depress or bring the bridge forward. #2 Having a MIM telecaster does not have anything to do with a tremelo problem because 99% of the time tele's don't have tremelo units(and usually if it is custom made for someone). The question is not the quaility of the MIM Fenders it is some of the hardware they use.

Your correct in stating that there are no guarentees. As far tuning with locking units being harder well! You tune flat after streching your strings and then set your locks (tighten the locking nut top screws) then you tune to pitch with the tuning knobs.

Follower of Hendrix: There are alot of manufactures usinf licensed floyd's (units made to FR specs but not made by the floyd rose co.) go to a music store and try one out.  I have been in contact with the floyd rose co via email and a new FR original goes for 179.99 american.

Good luck

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No it just stayed in tune when I used the whammy bar.

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Go to www.floydrose.com. Typically floyds are top loaded (routed on the front of the guitar and also the back to accommidate the trem claw & springs) they have different models. The model I have is a original (thats the model name as well as an original floyd)and it is a top loader. Go to the website and look at the models that they make. They also have routing templates on their sight.

As previously mentioned before check out guitars with the following trems, Kahler, Schaller (made in Germany), Floyds (original and licensed models made to floyd specs and cost less around $69.99 to $125.00 american) and Wilkersons. You might find one that will work for you and your style of play.

To answer your original question yes the price does not include installation. However you can buy a strat clone body depending on type of wood for around $120 to 400 american they will rout it for a floyd and you have to finish (ie: paint or dye) and put it together (the hardware and wiring).

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I play ONLY blues and metal and if i didnt bend i wouldnt play but if your having tuning problems you probably need some new machine heads man and if that doesnt work you should......well you should learn 2 like tuning man  <img src="images/smiley_icons/icon_smile.gif" border=0 alt="Smile">

Have you tried getting a (i dont have a clue what its called because i only started playing a few months ago) Thing that goes over the nut on the neck on the guitar ive got one of them and my guitar only goes out of tune once per week. Or try an easier way such as ( if are intending on not breaking string i would advise this) tug on middle of string ( not so hard string brakes) then retune keep doing this a number of times and it might help. <img src="images/smiley_icons/icon_cool.gif" border=0 alt="Cool">

yeah i was thinking that i should of told the dude what i meant but yeah i meant locking tuners

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did you say stratocaster? there is no bridge on a stratocaster...not a standard one anyway, they have a metal saddle (with a pickup in it) but if you got the name wrong and you have a guitar with a bridge, I would strongly reccomend a bone bridge..(A Real bone bridge, not plastic) which will last longer.  The bridge doesn't really affect the sound that much unless it's not installed properly (the highest part goes towards the top string) your problem more than likely is being caused by the neck not being set up.  This may also cause the strings to rattle or buzz..I Have the same problem with my strat. copy. Take it to a music shop, or if you are so inclined, set the neck yourself by turning the truss rod(s) about a quarter of a centimetre either way, depending on which way the neck needs to go. Hope that helps.
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DUDE, where have you been?  What  you are refering to is a acoustic guitar saddle, the wood would be your bridge.  The complete unit (in this case a tremolo) is considered a bridge on an acoustic or electric guitar. The single metal saddle you are refering as is correct but it is one piece that makes up the complete bridge. If your strat copy has a plastic bridge it is a copy of an acoustic strat not the MIM Fender as the original post suggest. Read the complete thread.

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