I had "Drift Away" in my songbook.  The person whose work it was asked that Chordie take it down and Chordie did.  That's fine and appropriate and no hard feelings.  What I found funny about it was that the person who worked out the chord chart didn't even know who wrote the song or who performed the song - crediting nobody but "Unknown".  It seems to me that if you're going to care enough about propriety to claim work as your own and request others not to provide it that you also ought to care enough to spend the 16 seconds to Google the song title and provide proper credit to the original artist or author.  I don't know.  The irony humored me.   

For the record, it was written by Mentor Williams and the well-known version is performed by Dobie Gray.  I saw Mentor Williams perform at a country package show.  He did the song, and in his talk-up claimed that he enjoyed the humor of a country artist writing a song about rock and roll being made famous by a soul artist.  The song speaks to everyone apparantly.  Good song.  I'll find another version.  If anyone knows the three lead-in chords in the intro progression of the Dobie Gray version, I'd be grateful if you'd share them with me.  I've been using Cmaj, C, C7 - not right. 

- Zurf

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Here in the U.S., we just called it "Friday".  No naked Maypole pagan rituals.  No more beer or wine than usual for a Friday.  No bank holiday, national holiday, or any other kind of holiday.  Just Friday.  Most weeks, Friday is enough.

- Zurf

5,528

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Welcome.

5,529

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Welcome.

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crevs.1972 wrote:

I race bicycles, it can be really demanding, having to train the 250 - 300 miles per week on top of a job and family.

I did that in my youth, but wasn't any good at it.  You must be alot better if you've been doing it for so long.  I spent three years in vigorous training, and didn't improve my placements whatever.  It seems that everyone else's times were improving as quickly as mine.  I was certain to come in exactly middle in every race.  If there were 11, I'd place sixth, if there were 101 I'd place 50th.  I did get to meet some interesting people and lift a track bike.  Those track bikes are amazing.  My sister was a track star at her college and she introduced me to this guy.  He offered to let me ride it, but I didn't want to take the risk of messing up a bike that cost about twice my annual earnings. 

I converted my race bike to a (very, very short) touring bike and haven't looked back. 

- Zurf

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(40 replies, posted in Chordie's Chat Corner)

Fishing & paddling mainly.  I camp sometimes to get closer to the fishing and paddling.  I used to hike and bike quite a bit, but that's tapered off.  I love being outdoors. 

- Zurf

alvee33 wrote:

Should this not be in "My Local Band"?

I don't think so.  We'd need a name to be a band.  And members. 

Detman101 wrote:

6th of June sounds good to me

6th of June is out.  Scouting conflict.  I'm looking at the 13th now.  We've got two maybes, and I've got a few non-Chordie friends who're interested.  I think that's good enough for some backyard picking. 

I'll get this underway and post back with details. 

- Zurf

Yowzer KajiMa.  That is a resounding YES YOU CAN GET HURT PLAYING.

Johnny Cash's cover of 9 Inch Nail's "Hurt"
Luther Allison's cover of The Rolling Stones "You Can't Always Get What You Want"
Dr. John's cover of Stevie Ray Vaughan's "Cold Shot"
The Duhk's cover of Sting's "Love Is The Seventh Wave"
Joan Jett's cover of the theme song to the Mary Tyler Moore Show
Bonnie Raitt's cover of John Prine's "Angel From Montgomery"
Willie Nelson's cover of Billie Joe Shaver's "Fast Train to Georgia"
Ray Charles' cover of the classic "Georgia", also covered by Willie Nelson
Mavis Staple's cover of Bob Dylan's "You've Got to Serve Somebody"
And since we've got Bonnie Raitt and SRV mentioned in the same post, I'll add her version of "Pride and Joy" for consideration. 

Self-Covers:
Jimmy Buffett covered his own song "Son of a Son of a Sailor" on his album "Take Me To Margaritaville", and I like it far better than the original. 
Eric Clapton did an acoustic cover of his own "Layla" (from Derek and the Dominoes period), which I like very well.

I'm sure I'll think of some more.  I love covers.  It's always fun to hear how someone else interprets the same lyrics and brings an entirely different style and feel to it. 

- Zurf

Lewis Campground sounds nice.  I'll keep it in mind.   That's getting to be a pretty long drive for Detman, though. 

I am in Leesburg, which I think is about mid-way for you (Gainesville), Oldnewbie (Haymarket), and Detman (Frederick).  I've got a couple buddies here in town, and another couple from over the mountain near Front Royal who'd be interested.  We could be in danger of too many pickers. 

Let's see if anyone else comes out of the woodwork.  I'll have to dig up Oldnewbies e-mail address to invite him as I don't think he comes around Chordie forums any more. 

It will be warm by then, but we can have some cool drinks standing by.

- Zurf

Not June 6.  Scouting conflict. 

Yeah Russell, trains come close enough.  Little place in DC called "Union Station".  You may have heard of it...

- Zurf

I know Detman and Jets60 and Oldnewbie and I live out here.  I know a few other folks in the area who aren't on Chordie but who do enjoy some strumming. 

Let's think of a place where we can get together and have a little acoustical jamm session.  How do Saturday, June 6 or Saturday, June 13 sound?  I haven't talked to my wife yet, but I think we may be able to hold it here at my house if there are no other church or scouting events in the way.  I didn't see anything on the calendar, but I am calendar-challanged. 

I have a small back yard, but it's big enough for kids to play if Mommas or Daddys want to come (we have a playset and there's a field behind us perfect for tag or kickball), plus I have a comfy campfire ring set up in the shade of a big maple tree.  If someone absolutely, positively must plug in, there is power.  If it rains, we can go to my family room or set up some outside shelter.  There's also a park nearby where we could rent a pavilion cheap. 

No promises yet.  Let me see the level of interest, and if some Chordians want to jamm a little and teach each other a little, let's try and work it out for a few hours of fun. 

If not here, then let's see if we can find an understanding campground with late "quiet hours" and make it an overnight event.  I know of at least two convenient, comfortable, and clean places along the Shenandoah without even thinking about it. 

- Zurf

I just put medium strings on my acoustic and my left fingertips hurt.

Sadly, I think most musical accidents are alcohol or drug related.  I suppose things like carpal tunnel syndrome are possible.  When I played horns, I chipped most of my lower front teeth doing horn pops while marching.  That's hardly a crisis.  Blisters, I guess.  If a string broke, it could cause a cut or injury if a body part got in the way of the recoil.  I don't think it's that dangerous of a hobby.  Except for the alcohol and drug connection.  When I was a teenager and it was time for me to choose which college to attend, I had to choose between careers in music or business.  I was playing some gigs in a playhouse orchestra then and got to see the behavior of so-called adults in the industry at cast parties and chose business over music.  Coke and pot and extreme quantities of booze abounded.  Acid was on its way out and heroine was popular back then, but I didn't see any of either one in use.  It may have been at the parties, but I was pretty naive and wouldn't have been looking for it.  I joke about booze from time to time, but addiction to it or any intoxicating substance is deadly serious and no joking matter.  People get badly messed up. 

- Zurf

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Cool crow story.

The first time I was trying to learn guitar, I was in college.  My parents had moved to Michigan from Pennsylvania, and I attended college in Virginia.  So, when I went "home", I knew no one.  That worked out well for trying to learn chords.  So I had my girlfriends old guitar that she never played, and I had a couple of books and I tried to work my way through them.  My parent's home was beautifully situated and my mother had done a terrific job of landscaping the back yard.  There was a big sun room that looked out over the back yard, with a big picture window and sliding glass door.  In the window well hidden behind some shrubs in the landscaping lived a groundhog.  My dad tried traps.  He tried to shoot it (he is certified by the NRA as a sharpshooter).  He tried poison.  He tried filling in it's hole with gravel.  He tried everything he could to get rid of the groundhog.  Nothing worked.  So instead we named it Penny and figured it was a pet.  Now, Penny had a curious habit.  Whenever I'd pull out my guitar, which was often, Penny would get up on the stoop for the sliding glass door and sit.  When I played the chords right, and followed the progressions in the book, Penny would stand up on her back legs and lean on the screen.  When I played a chord "sour" or hit a "sour" note, Penny would cower down into a ball and cover her ears with her paws.  Sometimes she'd run away and wouldn't come back until I got it right.  For inspiration, I've got a picture of her near where I practice.  I'll see if I can scan it and put it up on my picture website.  My first group of jamm buddies called ourselves "Penny's Troubadours."  You have no idea how humbling it is to have a groundhog as a guitar instructor.

I have no idea what this has to do with Geeserhood.  This story ought to be in the "random" thread.  Sorry for the hijack. 

Suffice to say that I'm not in college any more, and haven't been for a long time.  I stopped guitar about the time I graduated and didn't come back for a long time - just about two or three years ago.  I graduated in '87.   

- Zurf

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(66 replies, posted in Chordie's Chat Corner)

Russell -

My college room mate cooked hotdogs like that, except he used forks instead of nails. 

aabb -

There are no GOOD recipes for 'possum.  They're edible and will keep you from dying of starvation, but there's no way to make them good.  Worst hillbilly recipe I've ever heard of is squirrel brain gravy.  No thank you.  A couple fellows I know love the stuff.  I'll pass. 

- Zurf

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Welcome neocaligus

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Russell_Harding wrote:

Zurf "making it up" is kind of like playing a bad note in a solo if you repeat the note people will think you intended to play it that way (some of them) lol

When in doubt, play loud.

- Zurf

On losing things mysteriously, here's an odd story.  A friend of mine was a Navy nuclear engine chief for a vessel that was going into drydock for a refit.  Rather than reassign him and make him move his wife, he volunteered to stay with the ship and help strip her down.  He said that after everything was offloaded, all the furniture, carpet, and comforts of any kind were gone and the whole ship was swept out, they started removing bulkheads.  The first place he was assigned was the recreation room.  As they started to remove bulkheads that were bolted or riveted into place, they found 72 ping pong balls.  Now, can anyone explain how a ping-pong ball got behind a screwed on bulkhead?  They understood when they found contraband, because someone went through the effort to hide it, but ping pong balls? 

- Zurf

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Bungee jumping is not something I understand.  Terrible shame what happened to that kid. 

That aside, Americans are very superstitious.  However, not all are.  I have stayed on the 13th floor of hotels when travelling.  The building I work in is 18 stories high and has a 13th floor.  But for some of the older buildings, they did sometimes abide by that superstition.  Seven is considered lucky, so they should have just had two seventh floors. 

- Zurf

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You make it up.  If someone says "That's not the way it goes," then tell that person it's an arrangement.

I play "Forever and Ever Amen", but I don't have a recording of it, and I didn't remember exactly how it went from fifteen or so years ago when it was popular.  So I was playing it at a campfire one time when a very talented singer friend of mine asked, "Do you want to hear how Randy did it?"  I liked that.  He didn't say, "You did it wrong," or "That's not how it goes", or pass any kind of judgment.  He just offered to let me hear how the original singing artist performed it, which offer I gratefully took him up on. 

- Zurf

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(66 replies, posted in Chordie's Chat Corner)

I don't remember any of these things.  There is no gray in what's left of my hair or in my beard.  The sky is bright green.  I drive a pickup truck. 

One of these statements is true. 

- Zurf

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(25 replies, posted in Acoustic)

Badeye - I meant the refund check arrived.  SCHWEET!  I was on the way out the door to buy it today when the phone rang and a friend needed help.  My wife went over to help out and I'm here with the kids.  I love my kids, but I don't take them to that music store.  It's crammed full of wonderful gizmos and gadgets, and I can't afford to purchase all the ones my kids would break before I could get the guitar purchased by not keeping their hands to themselves.  Terrible grammar, sorry.  My German upbringing.  I've entirely forgotten the language, but apparantly not the grammar (which does not always work terribly well in English).  Anyway, I'm guessing that I'll buy the guitar soon.   It would be nice to have another guitar so that I can send my primary guitar in to get set up well and not miss it too much.  Of course, there's always the electric...  Or the classical...

- Zurf

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(7 replies, posted in Music theory)

Forget the names for a moment.  Just think of the full scale as twelve tones.  Each tone represents the same interval. 

1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13 starts the scale over
Put your guitar in hand and pick any string.  Pluck that string with no fingering on it.  Now put a finger down on the first fret and pluck it.  Second fret and pluck it, and so on up to the 11th fret.  That was a full twelve tone scale.

Now, the C major scale, the scale upon which all the names are based, includes only 8 tones.  Obviously, some of the tones out of the twelve tones of the full twelve tone scale are skipped.  If you play a "C" note where the 1 is above to start your scale, it would look like this:

1  C
2
3  D
4
5  E
6  F

8  G

10 A
11
12 B
13 C (starting over one octave higher)

Notice that 2, 4, 7, 9, 11 have no notes beside them.  Those are the tones of the twelve tone total scale that are not used in the major scale.  Those are also your sharps and flats.  Asharp/Bflat is the tone between A and B.  Each step, from one number to the next, is a semitone (UK terminology) or a half-step (U.S. terminology).  One semitone above A is an A sharp.  One semitone below B is a Bflat.  As you can see from the chart, those are the same note.  This also explains why you don't have a Bsharp or an Fflat.  Those would just be C and E, respectively. 

Hope that helps.  Also, if Russell or Jerome comes in and corrects something I've said, believe them over me.  I do.

- Zurf

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(25 replies, posted in Acoustic)

Tax return arrived yesterday.  Things are looking good.  I'll keep you informed.

- Zurf

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That stinks NELA.  I hope the surgery brings you some relief.

Tell me more about this trigger finger.  I have an odd thing happening with the middle finger of my left hand.  After an hour or so in my kayak, the middle finger won't let go of the paddle.  I have pry it off with my right hand.  It doesn't hurt, and it has come in handy (pun unintended) from time to time when the paddle has slipped, but it's fairly annoying.  Happens with the steering wheel sometimes too, if I'm on a long trip and don't move my hands around.  Is that similar to this "trigger finger" you mention?  As long as things are moving, it's fine, but when I hold something for a while, it's locked. 

- Zurf