6,576

(61 replies, posted in Chordie's Chat Corner)

Well, I'm not a teenager but I've got a bit of the same problem.  Today is my 20th wedding anniversary.  Now I learned "Forever and Ever Amen" for this occaission, but I've played it so many times now in practice that it's not something that my funny little honey will appreciate. 

So, I need another song.  I'm thinking "Flesh and Blood" by Johnny Cash.  My wife gets a little jealous of my river time sometimes, so I thought a song with the lyric, "Mother Nature's quite a lady, but you're the one I need" fits well. 

Not writing my own song.  Just not going to happen.  If you heard the silly things I make up around the house you'd know why.  They always seem to come back to gastric disturbances somehow.  Eight year old boys like my ditties, but they are not suitable for a love song.

I'm open for suggestions.  Keep it to open chords if possible.  I've got to learn the song today (with laryngitis no less - but a strong shot of whiskey will take care of that long enough to sing a three minute song). 

- Zurf

6,577

(20 replies, posted in Chordie's Chat Corner)

Full shilling - I like that one.  In the U.S. we have dozens of ways of saying the same thing.  Here's a few that come to mind.

He's a few slices short of a loaf.
His elevator doesn't reach the top floor.
He's about a quart low.
He's about a half a bubble off of plumb.  (this was used in Quigley Down Under to humorous effect)
His lights are on but nobody's home.
He's lost his marbles.
And many more...

Doc - I think that constant use of foul language has as much to do with a lack of education as it does ethnicity.  I grew up in Appalachian Pennsylvania.  By and large, the only black persons there were associated with a small college we had in the town and were well educted.  However, I heard some horrendous language from some of my high school class mates - particularly those who didn't care much about grades or learning.  I'm no expert on urban living, though, so could be all wet. 

- Zurf

I've heard folks doing the same thing at Guitar Center.  I heard one guy playing the exact same lick over and over again for what was probably 45 minutes or more.  From one of my offices, there's a Guitar Center on the way home.  Sometime when the traffic is really bad, I pull off to play some guitars and basses I can't afford (I know, it breaks my own rule) in the acoustic room and to spend a little time looking over the DVD's and books.   Sometimes I go in, and there's some guys really shredding.  Other times you'll hear a guy popping and slapping and putting together a serious groove on a bass.  But this time, it was a guy playing the same four measure lick over and over and over and over.  The guys who worked there didn't seem to notice.  I'm sure three different licks wouldn't have bothered them a bit.

- Zurf

I was playing a little guitar with my sister's boyfriend over the Thanksgiving weekend.  We hadn't played together before, so we were just swapping the guitar back and forth and playing riffs and songs we knew.  I told him through long habit I still rely on my song book.  I've never been good at memorizing songs.  For some reason, if that song book is open to the right page I really don't need to look at it much, but if it's not there I just can't recall how things go.  Anyway, he's a pro piano player.  Been pro for thirty years or so.  Cruise ships, bars, opening acts.  Wasn't a headliner so far as I know but he's a talented man nonetheless.  Well, he looked through my songbook and asked "Can you play this one?"  "Oh no, that's in there to practice on barre chords."   "How about this one?"  "Oh sure.  But you've got to understand I don't play like a cover.  I just play like I want so you'll have to listen and blend in."  "No problem."   

Well, we played through a couple songs.  Then he said, "Keep up the good work.  You're doing real well."   

"Thanks.  I'm teaching myself so I don't have any tricks, just basic strumming and fingerpicking."

"Well, don't worry about that.  You've got the voice for it, just strum along and let people hear you sing."

I've never had my voice complemented and only ever considered it a means to keep track of the song.  I enjoy singing, but never thought I was any good at it.  I still don't, but it sure was nice to hear an unexpected complement.

- Zurf

6,580

(7 replies, posted in Songwriting)

Good gracious, that's a long song for such a short title. 

- Zurf

Last Rebel, I am just so impressed with your songwriting.  I've sent a couple of your songs (with due credit to you of course) to some friends who enjoy seeing good lyrics.  I'm hoping that the next time I get together to jamm with these buds that we'll be able to work out an arrangement.  Though I expect my 52 year old buddy with the bass voice that sounds like it starts at his ankles and just sort of rumbles up from there brings a different tonality to it than you, we both remain very impressed. 

It's a blessing to me that you're willing to share your gift.  Keep up the good work. 

And you're right about happy lyrics*.  Somehow they wind up sounding sappy.  But add in a banjo and a mandolin and you can make any lyrics sound uplifting! 

- Zurf


*Excepting lyrics about hats of course.  Those are always appreciated.    :~)

6,582

(20 replies, posted in Chordie's Chat Corner)

No need to apologize Ms. Doll.  I was just being a smart alec for some reason. 

I don't worry about censorship on sites like this, and think it's rather odd that someone would assume that the right to free speech (usually applied at a national level) would apply to an international site such as this.  When you consider that just in this thread six different nationalities are represented, the idea that there is such a thing as 'community standards' goes out the window.  I tend to treat conversing in a private site such as this the same as I would treat conversation around the fireplace in someone's family room.  If someone says something offensive, the host has the right to demand appropriate behavior by his own rules.  Further, if someone feels as if something is or should be offensive to the host, it may be appropriate to speak his mind (though at that point whether or not discipline is appropriate remains the perview of the host). 

So, I was being a smart alec because really censorship on a private web site is something that ought to be expected in exactly the same sort of social rules that one can expect censorship at a private club or home.   Plus, I'd really appreciate any donations.  Free money.  What's not to like?

- Zurf

6,583

(20 replies, posted in Chordie's Chat Corner)

Just leave everything up to me.  It'll be fine.  Juuuuust fine. 

(please send a donation - giving people their opinions is expensive)

- Zurf

My sister isn't quite like the fellow in that movie, but she can learn an instrument well enough to play it on stage in a week or so.  I can recall her playing piano in an Andrews Sisters tribute band, saxophone in a classical orchestra and lyre (the percussion kind) in a marching band.  She's played so many different instruments in so many different styles I can't even recall it all. 

Unfortunately, if genetic, the genes were used up before getting to me and I have to work for every advance.

- Zurf

6,585

(11 replies, posted in Acoustic)

Cool.  My sister's had an Epiphone Masterbuilt acoustic that she's played for the past thirty years and it still has better sound than most guitars twice the price.  Good buy!!!

Sounds like the store manager knew what to do.  If you're going to get musicians out of bed before the crack of noon, offering free food is definitely the way to prevent riots.

- Zurf

6,586

(12 replies, posted in Songwriting)

You've done it once again Miss Rebel.  Are you planning to put chords to it, or should I put in my own.  You know the saying "Three chords and the truth."  You've written the truth, I won't mind putting my own three chords to it.

- Zurf

6,587

(11 replies, posted in Acoustic)

Seagull & Blue Ridge are probably the best buys you'll find at Guitar Center.  Takemine does make some good guitars, but the necks seem a bit narrow to me.  I don't know why.  However, assuming that the person you're taking has his own hands instead of mine, that may be a good thing. 

Good luck.  There are a lot of good guitars in that price range.  You're even getting into the range where Martin has their lowest end guitar.  Taylor 100e gets good reviews and is in that price range. 

Write back and let us know what he gets!  Permit those of us whose spare change is going to buy trinkets for children this time of year half a chance to live vicariously through your guitar purchasing experience. 

- Zurf

6,588

(2 replies, posted in Acoustic)

Not heard of it, but congratulations on your purchase.  I hope your son gets many hours of pleasure over many years from his new guitar.

6,589

(10 replies, posted in Chordie's Chat Corner)

Depends on the crowd.  My kind of crowd a country waltz usually works.  Tennessee Waltz and such. 

- Zurf

6,590

(21 replies, posted in Chordie's Chat Corner)

Old Doll - Something I have heard as being useful for others in your situation as an accomplished player who needs to revive her playing to keep from getting stale is a retreat.  In the U.S., perhaps in UK as well, there are camps.  Sort of like sleepaway camps for kids, except they are for adults and concentrate on various artistic skills.  Going away to really concentrate on guitar playing for a week with other guitar players (most of whom you've likely never met) sounds like it would challenge any player.  Especially if you elect to study a style that you've not studied before.  Perhaps Flamenco or Ska or Reggae or Bluegrass or what have you.  Or something that you've dabbled in but are still waiting for the Eureka! moment. 

Anyway, just a suggestion. 

My sister is an artist who takes her 'vacation' as an instructor at one of these camps.  She teaches things such as papermaking or various flat arts, but the same camp also does folk music schools with fiddle or guitar or banjo players.  She says that the after-hours campfires are epic!

- Zurf

6,591

(26 replies, posted in Chordie's Chat Corner)

I Saw The Light.  I think I have those chords somewhere.  I've been working on a fingerpick/bluegrassy version of "I'll Fly Away."  Going to be catching up with my sister over the holiday.  She's a banjo picker, so figured I'd so a clawhammery sort of thing and wound up with something completely different.  She should be able to clawhammer along, though.  I love singing with her.  We're kind of like wine and cheese when we sing.  Either of us is no better than only so-so but together we're pretty good.  There's nothing in the world like family harmonies working a bluegrass tune.  My other sister will be there too.  She's a piano player, and I don't expect the cottage we've rented will have a piano but that doesn't mean she can't sing along.  My dad tells me her boyfriend's got a good tenor voice.  I used to know him 30 years ago, but I was such a pup then that I haven't got a chance to remember what he sounds like.  He's a piano player too, but he went pro for a time so I expect that he knows his way around a flat-top too.

- Zurf

6,592

(26 replies, posted in Chordie's Chat Corner)

Oh, music.  Our church is blessed with a terrific worship leader.  We do some of the modern worship and praise songs that have an alternative rock sound.  However, he also writes a few songs now and then that have a folk-rock sound.  They've done arrangements on a few hymns as well.  I like that.  The lyrics of the old hymns are terribly useful for reinforcing the teaching of the sermons. 

The worship leader is open to Country Gospel, I think, (my preferred religious music style) but our lead pastor cannot stand country music.

We had a rap group perform this past Sunday.  I wasn't into it, but there were some folks in the congregation that were grooving.  No sense in leaving folks out.  I like the idea of using a variety of musical styles so that everyone can find some reason to be offended.

- Zurf

6,593

(26 replies, posted in Chordie's Chat Corner)

It's not difficult at all.  Ditch the tradition that priests have to be celibate.  There's no scriptural basis for it at all. 

I'm active in my church.

- Zurf

6,594

(21 replies, posted in Chordie's Chat Corner)

Doc,
Fear not.  If it stops being fun, I'll stop playing.  I am having a LOT of fun working on the rhythmic opportunities your "blocked" strums have opened up.  I still consider myself a bass player, but practice guitar twenty times as much as bass right now (I'm not even really practicing bass, just playing some riffs so that I don't atrophy too badly). 

My style of bass playing does not include all manner of technical thumpery.  I'm not popping, slapping, tapping or any other "ing".  I'm a dead ahead  box player, sometimes staying on the root note of a chord for measures at a time, just using passing notes from root to root.  Other times merely using arpeggios or inversions, but doing it RHYTHMICALLY.  I recall playing with a real wizard.  This kid has it all, talent, skill, good equipment, and a positive attitude.  Plus he's a genuinely nice guy.  Anyway, we're making up bass lines for a new song one of the guys wrote and he did the unspeakable.  He played straight sixteenths.  He's a good kid and I'm learing a lot from him, but I about lit into him, I'll tell you that.  "Kid!!!  You are good.  Great, really.  I could practice all day every day until I die and never play half as good as you.  But Kid, you've GOT to understand something about the bass.  Never, ever, EVER play straight sixteenths!!!  Never!!  SHUFFLE.  Always shuffle."  Anyway, getting to put some of that rhythm into my guitar playing - sheesh, that's a real blessing.   

- Zurf

6,595

(27 replies, posted in Chordie's Chat Corner)

On the religion angle, I go along with y'all to the extent that we recognize religion as a set of rules contained within an organization and that faith is different from religion.   I also further differentiate, even on what may be obvious.  I do not think for a moment that the Crusades were fought to advance the Lord's will.  Not for a moment.  They had nothing to do with faith or pleasing God, but over someone who had replaced God with the gods of power and wealth.   

Also, I have always thought of politics as the means by which limited resources are allocated.  It's economics with guns instead of calculators. 

If you take my definition of religion above, and use it as a sauce to pour over the entree of my definition of politics and I think you'd see that 'religious' wars are just plain old armed political conflict.  Natural resources, technology, economic influence, land, all of these are the limited resources the political process of war are trying to allocate (or reallocate to be more accurate). 

Now to conflate the threads of this thread, on Thanksgiving, let's give thanks for our soldiers who are doing the fighting in the Middle East.  Regardless of the purposes of the war, and regardless of what I or others may think of those reasons, I am grateful to those young men and women risking their necks for my benefit.  I can sit here and think high minded thoughts, but must always remember that there's kids who won't be home this year and far, far, far too many who will never be home again.  Back to what I said to Doc, I do wish that the leaders had to put their own skin in the game rather than risking someone else's.  That goes for all sides of the current conflict.

- Zurf

6,596

(13 replies, posted in Acoustic)

vheissu wrote:

Seeing as this is already about time sigs, how do I play a 4/6 beat?

I've seen 6/4, which is six beats per measure each quarter note gets one beat. 

I've never seen 4/6.  In 4/6, you'd have 1/6th notes getting one beat and four beats per measure.  I didn't even know there is such a thing as a 1/6th note.  It would be like cut time triplets, but four of them, which makes no sense to me.  It would be extremely difficult to count and seems like it would be one of those timings that would have to be felt rather than counted. 

Then again, maybe counting isn't that important after all.  There's a band in my area called the Dixie Jazz Quartet that has five members. 

- Zurf

gitaardocphil wrote:

I can' play anymore standing there on stage, I have to sit. Just try a GIBSON LES PAUL and you will feel what I mean

Gotcha on that!  I've got an Ovation Magnum bass and my lower back and shoulder where the strap comes across are usually killing me after warm-up, practice, and a first set.  For some reason, I just can't bring myself to play bass sitting down.  I don't even sit down with my bass when jamming or practicing.  I do sit when playing my guitar though.  Go figure.  Lost my marbles, I suppose. 

- Zurf

6,598

(11 replies, posted in Acoustic)

jerome.oneil wrote:
Zurf wrote:

I love Bossa Nova music but have not been successful in getting that smooth syncopated rhythm and the dorian mode to work together.

That there sounds like a great opportunity to work on some scales.   big_smile

Yep.  I just bought a scales book.  So right now I'm working on getting a clean sounding barre chord (F, F#m, Bm are the ones I'll need the most) and starting work on scales. 

- Zurf

6,599

(27 replies, posted in Chordie's Chat Corner)

Well Doc, I'm not sure that I'd like to watch it, but I think it would make a difference if the folks calling the shots had 'skin in the game'. 

- Zurf

6,600

(21 replies, posted in Chordie's Chat Corner)

I am in much the same boat as BoneDaddy.

I tried to learn this time by learning chords and strumming songs with straight quarter notes.  Then I started using a Fingerpick book for beginners and learned a couple patterns.  When it got hard, I stopped using the book until I get hungry for more (which is about now).  I printed out a million Chordies songs (and other sources) and have been playing them either strumming or fingerpick style.

I do not attempt to recreate a song the way played by the original artist.  Not usually, anyway.  I am just now trying to do that with some simpler songs.  The first one I've taken on in that way is Changes in Lattitudes, Changes in Attitudes by Jimmy Buffett because it's mostly just a syncopated strum with only a couple of 'signature' riffs. 

I have got a pretty solid strum and if I concentrate and practice can change up the patterns or learn a new one fairly quickly.  I have a couple of fingerpick patterns that I can play but struggle immensely with playing a bass line and treble line simultaneously (that's when it got hard and I stopped using the book until I had fully integrated the earlier lessons).  I am working on learning F, F#m, and Bm as barre chords.  I can play Bm as an open chord by avoiding the low E and A strings.  I need to learn it as a barre chord because it will make certain songs a lot easier to play.

I have no skills at picking out a line.  I have also just ordered a scales book.  I do not relish practicing scales but recognize it as some dues that must be paid to get me to the quality of play that I desire. 

Summary: open chords are solid, a couple fingerpick patterns are solid, strumming is mostly solid if I don't go too fast (though I'm usually far to busy with my strumming).    Current things to work on, new fingerpick patterns with simultaneous bass and treble lines, F, F#m, Bm shaped barre chords, and scales.

I practice daily for anywhere from 15 minutes to 2 hours, depending on how life is treating me that day.  If my progress stays what it has, I will have all the basic skills I'll need within another year to eighteen months.  Then it'll just be developing a style and sound and applying the skills to different music styles.

- Zurf