Hey Jerome,
First off let me say thanks for commenting... Went and tried out what you said. Im catching on but I still have to move slow. Its funny how out of practice i was with scales at all even starting up by the nut but I shook the cobwebs off pretty quick.
You say that if I know G and C I know all the scales??? What about all the minor, and (whats that other word, starts with a 'p')?
Anyway thanks again, I think I'll start doing some research on playing scales maybe find something on the internet or get Scott (dude I know who owns a music store) to hook me up with a book or something.
676 2007-09-07 23:57:17
Re: Learning to Play Electric (5 replies, posted in Electric)
677 2007-09-07 21:51:27
Topic: Learning to Play Electric (5 replies, posted in Electric)
I mainly play acoustic guitar, but when I'd been playing about two years out of the clear blue this old friend of my dad (apparently he'd helped them out years and years ago and now he's rich and wanted to kind of pay him back so to speak) calls on the phone one day. i din't know him but he said he wanted to talk to me which was kind of akward, but he says he heard I played guitar and was asking me if I like avoustic or electric better, to which I said I couldn't afford an electric so I'd never played one. So christmas rolls around and papa goes to visit him in houston. Comes back and hands me a guitar case and inside is a brand new shiny red Squire Strat, said it was a Christmas present from Marcus Cook.....
Ok sorry this story is so long but I came pretty near worshipping the thing (and still in a smaller way do lol), cleaned it every other day and played it even though I never knew anything about electric. I ended up kind of focusing more on acoustic because I was making more progress there, but recently I've made up my mind to really make a serious attempt to learn to play my electric.
So my question is this: WHERE DO I START?
Well really in some ways I've already started, looking up simple songs here on chordie and playing with little licks and things but Im really still just playing around. I have a pretty good basic knowledge of playing guitar but im still very uneducated.... I've heard people talking about learning scales. I know the G and C scale, but I'm not exactly clear on what exactly I ought to be learning?
Any kind of advice would be deeply appreciated..... thanks in advance,
Last Rebel.
678 2007-09-07 21:40:24
Re: INTERESTING STATISTICS (6 replies, posted in Bands and artists)
yeah i've got to say that since i joined up I can see huge improvements in my playing. Having never had any kind of lessons, or really even knowing a real good player who could help me out, I've been like a sponge trying to soak up everything there is to learn from everybody here.
Its been officially four years now since I first picked up a guitar and I feel like I was kind of at a standstill till just within these last few months ive stepped onto a whole 'nother level of learning the ins and outs of the guitar.
guitardocphil, the fact that you've been playing so long and feel like there's still more to learn gives me even more ambition to learn as much as I can. It also makes me glad to know that no matter how long I play there'll always be something else I can improve on....
679 2007-09-07 18:42:28
Re: The Ballad of Last Rebel (2 replies, posted in Songwriting)
sorry about the tab lines just noticed it and fixed it.... funny it didn't show that before i hit submit.
680 2007-09-07 18:39:43
Re: Getting Started with Songwriting (6 replies, posted in Songwriting)
hi Jason,
this is a pretty common problem for me too.( keep in mind that there are probly a bazillion songs that go G,C,G,D,G or something like that, but what really makes them different is the tune you sing with them and the words you say.)
try using a few little tricks like slipping in the appropriate minor chord somewhere (when I say appropriate I mean for instance when you're in C you can play Am and When you're in G you can play Em), switching from natural to seventh chords, or even using some little hammer ons and pull offs when you change chords. Try changing the order of the chords a little bit and seeing what that sounds like.... or if you're brave you could use a step up (or down) and do a key change.
Rythym has a lot to do with it too, and for that I think James gave the best advice. Lots of luck Jason ![]()
681 2007-09-07 02:21:16
Re: ur favourite rock bands (15 replies, posted in Bands and artists)
Lynyrd Skynyrd, ZZTop, AC/DC, Shinedown, CCR....
And then some of my favorite rock songs are
Mr. Crowley and Crazy Train by Ozzy Osbourne
War Pigs- Black Sabbath
Bad Seamstress Blues- Cinderella
Midnight Rider- Allman Brothers Band
Unforgiven II- Metallica
Sweet Child Of Mine- guns n roses.....
Yeah anyway I like a little bit of everything (cept rap, not knowckin' it just not my thing at all)
682 2007-09-07 02:17:00
Re: AC/DC greatest rock band ever(any1 agree) (20 replies, posted in Bands and artists)
yup, and I would say that I agree except for the fact that its hard to really compare the many sub genres of rock music.
They're my personal fav. of that kind of music but my all time favorite band is Lynyrd Skynyrd. they're more bluesycountryish southern rock though which is different.
Favorite AC/DC songs:
Back in Black
Walk All Over You
It's a Long Way to the Top If You Want To Rock and Roll (my grandma really digs this one lol)
Let There Be Rock
Hell's Bells
I like Jail Break and Highway to Hell and Dirty Deeds too....
683 2007-09-07 01:18:34
Re: AC/DC greatest rock band ever(any1 agree) (20 replies, posted in Bands and artists)
For those about to rock..... we salute you. ![]()
684 2007-09-07 00:59:54
Topic: The Ballad of Last Rebel (2 replies, posted in Songwriting)
First off the name is gonna be slightly different but i don't want to use my real name on here......
This is a song I've been working on for about a month now (really a lot longer than that if you count the time i was playing around with the melody). I can't help but be kind of proud of this one's tune since it really marks a big step for me in developing my playing style. I think the main feel and motive behind this song really comes from the music itself, the words came much later, almost as an unnecesary bonus lol
I'm writing this open (as usual I really like to CAPO it on first fret, you can figger out what key that makes it if you want to bother with it). There's a basic lead part which can really be played at anytime during the chorus but i like to strum while i'm singing...
I'll write out the song's chord pattern for those just wanting to take a quick look then at the bottom I'll post the melody line if somebody wants to hear what the song really sounds like.... (a note on rythym, i pronounce lousiana with 4 syllables lol)
Meloncholy Peaceful feel
Strumming isn't really a country rhythym but I DO bounce it
On the verses I like to do some hammer-ons and pull-offs with my middle and index fingers when i'm switching....
INTRO: Play Lead Part 2 then strum D, Am
VERSE 1:
Am
Its been a long hard road
C G
tryin' to find
Am
a place to call home
C G D
and peace of mind (oh-oh)
Am C G
I think its time to move on down the line
CHORUS 1:
G
Well roll on roll on
C Am
I gotta get to lousiana
C D
I gotta sing another song
G
Well guitar picker
C
wont you play some blues for me
Am C G
I've been sighin' all day long
VERSE 2:
Am
My heartaches and troubles
C G
they never end
Am
Been days it seemed this old guitar
C G D
has been my only friend (oh-oh)
Am C G
So I think its time I moved along again
CHORUS2:
G
So roll on roll on
C
I gotta get back to Texas
Am C D
I gotta sing one more song
G C
Guitar man help me play these blues away
Am C G
I've been crying all day long
INSTRUMENTAL- same chords as chorus OR
PLAY LEAD PART 1 AND 2
VERSE 3:
Am
Where can I go?
C G
If everywhere I feel the same
Am
And I can't see the road
C G D
for the rain (hey-yeah)
Am C G
But I hear the whistle of the midnight train
CHORUS 3:
G
Well roll on roll on
C
I don't care where we're going
Am C D
And I will sing an old sad song
G C
Guitar picker won't you play something for me
Am C G
I've felt like dying all day long
PLAY LEAD PART 2 -NO FILL IN STRUMMING-
~~~~~~~
Okay so here's the lead part: (sorry the notes dont line up perfect i aint too good at this)
After you play the note and land on the chord do a beat or two of fill in strumming before starting the next little step down thingy
*- you're gonna strum the chord also but make sure the accent is on this note
LEAD PART 1
G C D
l------------- 3-----------------0---------------------------------- ---2----------
l--0--------- 0------0--------- 1--------------------0----------------3------------
l-----2-0----0----------2-0---0-------0---2--0-2---2-0-------0---2--------------
l-------------0*----------------2----2------2--------------0h2------0----------
l-------------2----------------- 3*----------0--------------------------------------
l-------------3-------------------------------------------------------------------------
LEAD PART 2
G C G
l------------- 3-----------------0---------------------------------- ---3-------------
l--0--------- 0------0--------- 1--------------------0----------------3----------------
l-----2-0----0----------2-0---0-------0---2--0-2---2-0-------0---0-------------
l-------------0*----------------2----2------2--------------0h2------0---------
l-------------2----------------- 3*----------0------------------------ 2----------
l-------------3---------------------------------------------------------3-------------
I hope I wrote all that right.... anyway like I said you can play the lead part for the verses by putting in a few hammer ons and pull offs when you switch chords. You COULD change it up a bit and play the whole thing in a more finger pick style if you like, or just strum the whole thing.
To me it has kind of an easy peaceful, if kind of sad, mood to it. In my mind I can hear a nice fiddle intro to kind of draw out more of the traditional influences even though its not really as country sounding as most of the stuff I write.
Anyway as usual comments/suggestions??
685 2007-09-06 23:11:58
Re: Les Paul - we are not worthy! (6 replies, posted in Chordie's Chat Corner)
nice.... i love les pauls. I've made up my mind i'm gonna own one some time before i die if i have to sell everything i own. Not that im that great an electric player but i could stare at it and pretend....
Anyway that was a cool little movie thanks for sharing ![]()
686 2007-09-06 22:58:49
Re: Another untitled gospel song form last rebel.... (13 replies, posted in Songwriting)
hey reb, i like the name gospel ship. or maybe never thrist. i usally use a part of the words for a title. just a suggestion
yeah thats a good idea, except that was actually kind of a hint at some other old gospel songs called 'Tis the Old Ship of Zion' and 'The Gospel Ship"..... Never Thirst sounds pretty good though. I thought about calling it 'won't you come' but im thinking maybe thats too obvious....
688 2007-09-06 19:52:54
Re: INTERESTING STATISTICS (6 replies, posted in Bands and artists)
Well I'm mostly a strummer with a few fill in riffs and licks, but I do a pick and finger style of picking sometimes.
i'd love to play more lead and rythym, and i WISH i could play solo.... I have a dream sometimes that I'm on stage with my red guitar and I'm just tearin' it up boy on some song thats a cross between a muddy waters intro and free bird, then all of a sudden my amp goes off.....
689 2007-09-06 19:36:35
Topic: MOODY BLUES (6 replies, posted in Chordie's Chat Corner)
A friend of mine said I should check these guys out.... anybody know of any links where I could just listen to thier songs? Im gonna try dogpile but im not sure which songs to look for.... any help would be appreciated,
690 2007-09-06 19:34:50
Re: Getting Started with Songwriting (6 replies, posted in Songwriting)
FIRST, I would read Jame's advice because he's much more of a vet than me, then maybe look into what I can tell you lol
My advice would be to write about something you understand, something you've been through. (It's been my experience that you're best days make good memories and mediocre songs, but you're worst days make painful memories and dang good songs. Just one of life's little jokes I guess....)
anyway it doesn't have to be somehting sad but it should be about something you know and have lived (or maybe lived through?). For instance I wrote a lot of songs about being homesick last year when I moved off to the city, and even now little traces of that find thier way into my lyrycs.
ALSO like James said, don't TRY to be deep. I find that when you just say whats on your mind, some will come out sounding really cool and deep and some will be short and simple, but its all good cuz you need both.
now lastly as for actually starting, I find it helpful to strum along a simple chord pattern and see what just kind of comes to me to sing. If I'm really stuck sometimes I find it helpful to listen to a lot of music that has lyrycs you appreciate. For me Kris Kristofferson, some of Johnny Cash's later stuff, A lot of blues....
Anyhow just kind of go with the flow,don't try to force anyhting just let it come as it will
691 2007-09-06 19:26:05
Re: Another untitled gospel song form last rebel.... (13 replies, posted in Songwriting)
hmmm..... you know that name sounds familiar actually. I come across so many gospel songs, my dad's a preacher/music director (well mostly music director for about ten years after my mom left), that its hard to keep up with all of them.
As you may have noticed he's really cool about letting me listen to other music too, but he always instilled with me for a great appreciation of a very underrated music form. Having played both, I can say that gospel songs are alot of times harder to do than the country songs that seem so similar....
Anyway thanks for the compliments ![]()
692 2007-09-06 19:21:22
Re: Favourite Quotes (19 replies, posted in Chordie's Chat Corner)
"Some High society lady, said is you're horse outside? Well no mam he's between my legs but you're too fat to ride..." -Hank Williams Jr.
"Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose"- Kris Kristofferson
"Take no thought for the morrow, sufficient unto the day are the evils thereof." - That one's from the Bible, always thought it was a catchy little piece of advice....
"Well I was born in Nashville but I left there long ago, cuz they built music city by sacrificing soul, And L.A. aint much different 'cept they got those fancy clothes...."-Shooter Jennings
If I think of some more I'll post 'em later. Nice topic Jikklop, take it easy ![]()
693 2007-09-05 00:50:04
Re: THINGS THAT ARE INPOSIBLE TO DO (55 replies, posted in Chordie's Chat Corner)
Old Doll wrote:Badeye.
That one just made me bust out laughing! Great Image! Gosh thats so funny.
Have to remember that one!Old Doll.
Hello Old Doll. There is a song by Roger Miller called
"You can't roller skate in a bufflo herd" It's here on chordie.Take Care...Badeye.
I actually know this song..... and am currently trying to decode it. Seems like every verse has to do with some popular advertisement or industry from the day.
for instance 'you can't roller skate in a buffalo herd'
I found a sign that was advertisng some company (don't know what it was) in an antique place that thier logo was a buffalo with roller skates.
'You can't drive around with a tiger in you're car"
This one I know cuz its from my great great great great Uncle Plez's company, The Humble Oil Company,(they sold to exxon. and yes i should be rich but he left all the money to his late age bimbo instead of my great grandpa....) thier slogan was 'there's a tiger in the tank', thier logo was a tiger (seem familiar? they still have gas stations using a newer version of him)
Anyway you can add this to the list-
figuring out a Roger Miller song lol That dude was nuts
694 2007-09-05 00:41:23
Re: Russian Horn Music - Gotta See & Hear (3 replies, posted in Chordie's Chat Corner)
kind of reminds me of the chime choirs my dad used to put together. Everybody had one note and a sheet of music with thier note highlighted so they'd know when to play it......................
this was a lot more impressive of course since the chime players were mostly non musical teenagers who couldn't otherwise contribute to the christmas cantata lol
intereting link James
695 2007-09-05 00:32:19
Re: "t"title:what a calamity. (6 replies, posted in Songwriting)
Ummmm - I can smell the fear!
Cute one, daddycool - Here in Mississippi, we have magnificent Garden Spiders that build webs between trees. The females can be up to 3" across from toe to toe. They are amazing to watch.
http://www.digital.mississippi-photo-ga … om/spider/
Luckily, I have never found one indoors - James
We have those here in texas too....my aunt marsy always called 'em 'wood spiders'. Run up on one in the woods last time i was up at the country, but i aint never seen one in the house neither... good thing lol
Anyway nice little ditty daddycool. I always hate it when those dern wood roaches crawl up under the bathroom tile too. I'll have to sing this to them, maybe it'll make them leave lol
696 2007-09-05 00:20:09
Topic: Another untitled gospel song form last rebel.... (13 replies, posted in Songwriting)
I wrote these verses a while back and finally came up with a chorus, so here it is.
There's a few nods at old gospel songs in here for anybody who knows any old hymns and southern gospel music....
I play this with a capo on first fret (im pretty sure thats Ab) because it fits my voice, but im gonna write it in G and you can play it anywhere you like.
(This is more of a southern gospelly sound not so much bluegrass as the last one. The tempo's actually kind of similar to 'my bucket's gotta hole in it' lol...'course if anybody wants to change the tempo a bit to make it bluegrassy that works too but the seventh chords aint as much fun to me that way)
At the end of every line strum a few beats before you sing the next line, technically its one measure i think...
G
Well I heard the preacher preachin'
G7
talkin' bout the other side
C C7
I heard the preacher preachin'
G
talkin' bout the other side
D7
He said there is a Gospel Ship
G
Do you want to ride?
CHORUS:
G
Well won't you come?
G7
Won't you come?
C
Won't you come
C7 G
His arms are open wide
G
Don't you know?
G7
Don't you know?
D7
It was for you
G
the blessed savior died?
Well I talked to a blind man
Who said he'd got back his sight
Talked to a blind man
Who said he'd recieved sight
Said I was once blind myself
Then I saw the light
Met a woman at the well
And she told me she'd never thirst
I met a woman at a well
who said she'd never thirst
Said she'd found the living water
but she had to meet Jesus first
Anyway it's fun to play around with cuz new verses are easy to come up with. Anybody who wants to can add thier own even if they like. I mostly worte this as an excuse to play lots of C7s (not sure what exactly i love about that chord so much but I'm always slippin' it in everything lol)
697 2007-09-04 23:05:31
Re: im new!! (3 replies, posted in Acoustic)
howdy charlie
welcome to chordie.
check out the beginner song books on the public books section, and then you know most country you can play along with pretty easily. I'd reccomend Johnny Cash, Hank Williams, (SOME Hank Jr), Merle Haggard. They mostly play in E,F,G or C (then you can always capo).
If you're wanting leads for acoustic check Shinedown's acoustic version of .45 (its here on chordie) sounds pretty sweet and its really simple
698 2007-09-04 22:52:33
Re: The hell you put me through- lyrycs that need chords (17 replies, posted in Songwriting)
yep i'm a girl ![]()
thanks thats one of my favorite lines too.... that ones definitely a keeper
699 2007-09-04 02:52:58
Re: Can you do this? (14 replies, posted in Chordie's Chat Corner)
i can do it.......
unfortunately it doesn't make me play any better lol
700 2007-09-03 02:24:33
Re: "Box of Memories" (8 replies, posted in Songwriting)
This is a very sad song James.... but very well written. Sometimes a sad song is good, and whats even better is a song that says something you've always wanted to say but weren't sure how. I think you've accomplished that ![]()