Dobros are awesome. I love the sound that resonator puts out. That twang. That steel slide sound.
Four days of bluegrass is coming up next weekend in Tacoma. I love this time of year.
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Dobros are awesome. I love the sound that resonator puts out. That twang. That steel slide sound.
Four days of bluegrass is coming up next weekend in Tacoma. I love this time of year.
dom7 chords using a C shape. I've also become fond of the G shape. They're both portable all over the neck, and the associated scale patterns don't require you to come out of the shape much.
If you do not have the rights explicitly granted to you, don't record it. The only music you own is the music you wrote.
You should make sure you have the rights to the music before you download it. "Free" MP3s generally mean someone is giving away someone else's music. This is unethical, and in most cases, illegal. Your best bets are going to be ripping your own CDs, or paid music services like Rhapsody or Napster.
The only music you own is the music you make.
jerome.oneil wrote:Again?
This week it's
1. Zep
2. Hank Williams and the Wandering Cowboys
3. Meshuggah
4. Bobby McFerrin
5. The Artists Formerly Known as Deep Dish Gravity (pimpin style!)Jerome
Who is Meshuggah? I've heard of the name a couple of times ... actually I have a preset on my Line6 of Meshuggah and it sounds pretty slick
Meshuggah is a Swedish thrash metal band that absolutely rox.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjzIBI3jkKY
It is a common misconception that you are only as good as your tools. This may be true for those that know how to utilize their tools to their fullest extent, but for the rest of us, it's not really an issue.
I love a beautiful instrument, though. And I have a fetish for Taylor dreadnoughts.
It was a Hofner-Anno nylon string classical. A beautiful instrument, with marvelous tone. It was given to me by a close friend who had just lost his old landlord, with whom he was close. He bought it for her. She never played it. He gave it to me. I took it as a moral obligation to learn it, which I did.
I just gave it to a close friend of mine. She's playing it every day now, too.
There are few things better in the world than a cheap guitar that plays great. It's like that ugly girl in high school that people gave you crap about because you were nice to her. Then she grew up to be a super model.
Again?
This week it's
1. Zep
2. Hank Williams and the Wandering Cowboys
3. Meshuggah
4. Bobby McFerrin
5. The Artists Formerly Known as Deep Dish Gravity (pimpin style!)
I mean what the hell is an A13 (575657), LOL
Glad you asked! ![]()
A 13 chord is an extended 7th, derived by adding the next appropriate member of the triad.
So for example, if we take the A major scale, for two octaves.
A B C# D E F# G# A B C# D E F# G# A
Now lets assign each note of that two octave spread a number. The first you'll know, as they're the common "Nashville numbers."
A B C# D E F# G# A B C# D E F# G# A
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15
So, to build a normal major chord, we take the 1, 3, and 5 notes of the scale.
A C# E
To build a 7 (or dom7) we take the flattened 7th (maj7 would be the unmodified 7th.)
So A7 is
A C# E G
Want to build a 9? Simply add the 9th note (which is really the 2, but we're another octave up now).
A C# E G B
11th? Piece of cake.
A C# E G B D
13th? No problem. You know what to do. At this point, you've got every note in the scale in the chord. That's why you never see an A15 chord. The "15" is already represented in the chord, so you'll be repeating yourself.
A C# E G B D F#
In all of those cases it's the 7th that sets the tonality of the chord. (dom, maj, diminsihed, etc). The addition of the extended notes merely adds color to them. It doesn't change the fact that they're still 7ths.
So thats what the hell a 13 is. ![]()
Theory is what makes music fun. It's the glue that holds the notes together to make music. Random notes is just noise. Put them in some kind of framework, and you get art.
If you're saying that my A13( 575657) is incorrect then your dispute is not with me but with Donald Fagen , Walter Becker, Larry Carlton, Lee Rienour, Wayne Shorter, and Chuck Rainey straight out of the Steely Dan songbook(Aja). I have, and continue to learn a great deal of my theory from these guys and I mean you no ill will nor disrespect but I'm gonna give more legitimacy to Fagen, Becker and friends than you. I admire your passion nontheless.
I don't think you and I could co-exist in a band together. (haha)
They may have it right, but your songbook may have it wrong. Songbooks are notoriously poor when it comes to transposition.
But don't take it by rote. Learn what makes a 9 or an 11 or a 13, and then check it yourself. The theory is the same no matter what instrument your playing. It's the application that matters.
Scales. Then scales. Then more scales.
And when you're done.
Scales.
The E that your talking about makes it an inversion. You've flipped the chord from "bottom up"
A C# E
to "top down"
"E A C#"
You make it a 7th by adding the G (G# for maj7, G for dom7). Then you add the rest of the notes in sequence to that.
Point being, you build extended chords on 7ths. That's why a 9 and a 11 and a 13 are all 7th chords.
That this is a guitar and not a keyboard is really where we're breaking down. You can demonstrate this fully on the keyboard, but it's hard to do on the fretboard. Its the case for most theory, I think. Anyway, for example the A13 in Deacon Blues (great choice, BTW. I love that band) is, when you build it out properly.
A13 = A C# E G B D F#
So what do we notice about that chord? It's got all seven notes of the scale in it. I defy you to play it on your guitar.
When we're playing extended chords on the fretboard, we're almost always making a compromise on the chord itself. We won't be playing the entirety of the chord, as it's simply impossible to do. This is always the case with 13s, as there are simple too many notes in them. (Unless you have a 7 string guitar, in which case, I bow to you, Sir.)
Just with your example, though, what makes the chord a 13 isn't the B, but the F#. A 13 is the addition of the 6th note in the scale (the 13th if you walk up another octave). The B is what makes it a 9. In all cases, you're playing the G, as it's the 7th. Because 13s are 7s, too. ![]()
"Power chords" are just intervals of a perfect 5th. Play the root and the 5th of whatever note is supposed to be powered up, and that's what you'll get.
Don't confuse an artifact of how you fret on the fretboard with how the chord is derived. In your example the last E is irrelevant to the chord. We'll use dom7ths (flat 7th) as that's more common, but it doesn't change anything.
A7 = A C# E G
A9 = A C# E G B
All you're doing to make a 9 is add the next step in the triad to a 7th. That's why it's a 7th. Same thing for an 11.
A11 = A C# E G B D#
So all extended chords are based on a 7th of some kind. They're generally interchangable as well. If I'm playing something and I come to an 13th and I don't know how to fret it, I can throw in the 7th and it works just fine.
What it looks like is irrelevant. What matters is how its derived.
All 9s, 11s, 13s , etc, are variants of 7 chords. You build a seventh by playing some variant of the 7th for that scale. flattened for dominant, straight major for the major, etc. Adding the 9th or the 13th doesn't make it a different chord, those notes just add texture to the 7th. If you stop playing the note that makes it the 9th, you're playing a 7th.
My Musicman Stingray Bass is appropriately named THUNDERSTICK!!! for it's propensity for blowing out amps.
That guitar, as we like to say, is louder than f$%ck.
Well spill!
I'll tell you mine, if you tell me yours. ![]()
Punk rocked! Disco sucked! As did Pop
If you like punk, what the heck are you doing listening to Green Day?
Dead Kennedy's were punk. GD is just highly marketed commercial pop.
So ah...
"Precious Man" Who's that?
Something you're not telling us, dear thing?
budwieser is an embarrasment to beer.
A major 9 is a major 7. What you want to learn next is chord progressions, and how to build them.
Nope. Just study and practice.
hey jerome thanks for the help but just a quick question what do u mean by the chord shapes associated with them is that like if u were playing a scale in A u need to learn all the different types of A chord on the neck or is there something a bit different to this or am i just being a bit thick?
Roy
There are five major chord shapes as well. C A G E and D. These can be played in the open position, and closed as barres anywhere on the neck. Likewise, each of the five major scale patterns falls into one of these shapes. I think the easiest to see this is with the C shape it's associated pattern.
Go ahead and grip yourself an A major chord down by the 11th fret. It will look like this.
-x-
-10-
-9-
-11-
-12-
-x-
Note that this is just a closed C shape chord. That is, if you move it down to the open position, you'll be playing C major.
Now play A major scale in the same position. You'll see how the notes you play fall directly over the notes you fret for the chord.
------------------------------------------------
----------------------------9---10--------------
--------------------9---11----------------------
------9--11---12-------------------------------
--12--------------------------------------------
---------------
You don't even have to move your hand all that much from the chord to play the scale. And if you were ripping a solo using this scale, you can get back to the A chord really quickly. And you can move that scale pattern anywhere to play different major scales. Need F major? Move your index finger, now on the 12th fret, to the 8th fret, and repeat. You'll be playing F, both the chord and the scale.
Each of the chord shapes is like this. The scale pattern over them will hit the same notes you're fretting for the chord. You just have to learn the patterns, and you can play in any key, anywhere on the neck.
Ahhhh sweet ... so I'm guessing doing the A minor Pentatonic isn't limited to the 5th fret ... you can move that same pattern to the 8th fret and do the same pattern and you'd have the Am Pentatonic on C
Almost. You would not have Am Pentatonic on C. You would have C minor pentatonic. Get the notion that it's "A minor" out of your head, unless you're playing it on the 5th fret. That's the only time it's A minor.
Nope. Just study and practice.
The "A minor pentatonic" is just one of five pentatonic patterns, and it's not specific to A minor. It's the same pattern no matter where you play it. Want to play C# minor pent? Put your index finger on C#, and play the same pattern. G minor? Put your finger on G and off you go.
Given that there are only five patterns for each mode, there isn't really all that much to learn. You could learn *every* major and minor scale by simply learning 10 patterns. Learn their associated chord shapes, and you're really going to be smoking.
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