6,601

(15 replies, posted in Songwriting)

I'll give you a guarantee.  True salvation or double your worship back once you're dead. 

Man, I am so looking forward to meeting you some day.  Passed through your neck of the woods for a jamm session at a buddy's house last weekend.  Oddly enough, we were working on a song that addresses this very issue.  If I get my buddy's permission, I'll post it here crediting him.   It's a Country Gospel song.  All three of us jamming on it were redeemed sinners who could really feel it.   It's not my studio (mostly 'cause I haven't got one), so I couldn't invite others, but I'll ask whether I may next time we do it. 

- Zurf

6,602

(11 replies, posted in Acoustic)

Do something totally different.  Listen to a music style you don't like and try to figure out some licks.  Or maybe a music style you do like but have never played. 

I like sissified 70's folk/pop.  So, a music style I don't like would be metal.  Since I very much doubt that I could bring myself to listen to metal long enough to figure out some licks, I'd try the second route.  I love Bossa Nova music but have not been successful in getting that smooth syncopated rhythm and the dorian mode to work together.  Those whacky Brazilians.  Bossa Nova will be a challenge I'll take on some day if I get stale.   

- Zurf

6,603

(15 replies, posted in Acoustic)

Bridges.  They are what makes playing in a band a pain in the neck and fun at the same time.  They add contrast, texture, and sometimes a little extra oomph to move the story of the song along. 

If you hear a song that's going along just swimmingly and about the time you decide to change the channel and all the sudden the song takes a twist to a different sound and then it pops back into the next verse (often the verse will have a little different feel than the first time) you've just experienced a bridge. 

If you know sissified '70s folk/pop like I do, think about Take Me Home Country Roads by John Denver.  It's a song about a place, West Virginia (yeeha).  Then after the first verse and chorus it goes into a minor key and starts singing about a particular person "I hear her voice in the morning hour she calls me, the radio reminds her of my home far away", etc.   Then it goes back into the same major chording but stays personal.  That section that starts "I hear her voice..." is a bridge.  It changes the sound of the song and the course of the song. 

Hope that helps. 

If it doesn't, then think of it as the predictable point in an Alternative Rock song where the rhythm section goes spastic. 

- Zurf

6,604

(5 replies, posted in Songwriting)

Cool.  I used to joke about the Motown singers using hydraulic underwear to hit those high notes. 

- Zurf

6,605

(12 replies, posted in Acoustic)

texan4ut wrote:

My mind is faster than my fingers.

I have that problem, except it's that my mouth is faster than my mind.

- Zurf

dguyton wrote:

(Sorry about the threadjack, Zurf!)

No sweat.  I was just ranting anyway. 

I play every day, but as James pointed out there's a difference between playing and practicing.  At first, playing as practicing, but now I've got the open chords pretty well (excepting Bm and the whole retinue of suspended and diminished and such) and can hit them such that I can strum a song first time through.  So now it's including songs that have Bm (the barre version), F, and F#m.  I play those transitions twenty or thirty times before or after each song.  So, I guess that's kind of practice. 

It's the scales I'll be playing in the new book.  I hate scale and arpeggio exercises (or at least seem to recall that I didn't like them when I was playing classical bass so long ago it's hard to believe it was even me).  But I now recognize how important they will be to move my playing forward to where I'd like to get it. 

It's just the 1/2 hour I was complaining about.  Seems like everyone wants to put claims on my time, even people I've never met. 

- Zurf

James -

I saw Livingston Taylor do something like that once.  He was opening for America at the Bloomsburg County Fair (Pennsylvania  - now a county fair doesn't sound like much but in that part of Pennsylvania at that time, it was a good venue).  Anyway, he was playing a lot of original folk music, and all the farmers were sitting in their overalls giving polite applause.  Well, Mr. Taylor knew his job was to get folks riled up and not to play music and so he said, "OK, if you don't know these songs I'll play some songs I know you can sing along to."  And he started playing the Brady Bunch Theme Song.  Folks started to sing along.  Then he split the audience and did the "who can sing louder" game with the Gilligans Island theme song.  By then, the generally stoic German and Swedish heritage folks were having a good time.  Then he pulled out some old-timey Appalachian classics, some Hank Williams, and even a few German drinking songs and really had folks going. 

When America took to the stage, the audience was almost disappointed.  But that didn't last long.  America's a darned good band.  I had the chance to talk to Mr. Taylor twenty years or so later.  I should have mentioned that night to him and see if he remembered turning that audience around.  I'm not sure I've ever seen a musician enjoy playing for an audience more than Livingston Taylor. 

- Zurf

6,608

(1 replies, posted in Acoustic)

Well, honestly, I'd just play both the ways you think it might make sense and then do it the way that I liked the sound of better.  I'm one of those guys that's just not hung up on playing it "right". 

- Zurf

6,609

(12 replies, posted in Acoustic)

Getting a new guitar you like will really motivate you.  Play it until your fingers beg for mercy and then play it some more.  Congratulations on a good choice.  The Seagulls are real nice.  I've played a few and liked them well.

- Zurf

It seems like every book that I see suggests practicing their style for 1/2 hour per day.  I just got a scales book that suggests practicing the scales 1/2 hour per day IN ADDITION to my regular practicing.  Hardly likely.  I'll do fifteen minutes, take that away from my other practice, and deal with the consequences of slow progress. 

I don't maybe it's just because I'm cranky from writing detailed instructions and having to justify every jot and tittle, but you'd think these guys could differentiate between what is critical, what is important, and what is merely recommended. 

Harumph.  Bah.  And humbug too.

- Zurf

Great story LR. 

Here's a quick one.  I was about 17 and playing upright bass in a playhouse orchestra.  This particular playhouse was so far off Broadway that it was in a different state.  The orchestra pit wasn't a pit, it was a loft.  The playhouse itself was a converted barn.  To get to the loft, one had to walk in front of the seating, across the stage, and up a staircase in the Stage Right wing.  Well, our bandleader was also the piano player, and the particular musical we were doing had a lot of honky tonk style piano in it.  He was a little slip of a thing.  Probably about 5'3" and not much more than 110# would be my guess.  And he had purple eyes.  Very unusual. 

Well, come Saturday's second performance, he was late in coming.  He took a nap between the matinee and the evening performance and he overslept.  Actors had already taken to the stage, so he couldn't get to the loft across the stage.  "The show must go on", you know.  The introductory dialogue was just about done and the first number about to start.  The show took place in a living room setting, with a couch in the center of the stage.  The prop master had borrowed the couch from someone who had a LOT of cats.  The lead was drastically allergic to cats and his voice kept getting more and more raw all week.  We played the opening number in a different key each night trying to accomodate this poor fellows allergies.  Well, we didn't know what key that number was supposed to be in and the bandleader wasn't there.  Just then, he came running up the aisle behind the Stage Right seat stands - full tilt!  Without slowing a lick, he jumped like he was trying to block a Michael Jordan lay-up, grabbed the floor of the loft, pulled with his hands, and fluid as if he had done it a thousand times in practice he just shot through the rails, rolled up on the floor, popped up behind his piano, shouted "G!" and we played that song starting right on time and without a hitch in the key of "G".   I don't think I've ever seen a better athlete than that purple-eyed piano player. 

- Zurf

6,612

(4 replies, posted in Acoustic)

Thanks!  I'm leery of posting the song on Chordie because it isn't my song and I haven't got permission from my friend.  If I get permission from my friends, I'll post it here crediting them.   

I'll check out that web site to see if it can do what I need.

Thanks again.

- Zurf

6,613

(30 replies, posted in Chordie's Chat Corner)

guitarrox16 wrote:

that DON'T relate to our...poor ,stupid drummer....
seriously he is literally stupid!!!!!
thanks though!

Well sure, he's a drummer. 

(if you're a drummer, I'm kidding)  (as far as you know)

Q: How can you tell if the stage is set up level?
A: If drool is coming out of both sides of the drummer's mouth.

I don't really have any name suggestions.  Band names are dime a dozen.  Just pick up a newspaper and there will be some names.  I'm looking at the ads on the side of this page and have come up with...

Quick & Easy
Next Hour
Smilies

6,614

(4 replies, posted in Acoustic)

This might belong in the Songwriting forum.  Then again, maybe not.  If I am making work for the moderators, please accept my apology up front.

I've got a friend who wrote a Country Gospel song.  We cut a demo of it the other day in a buddy's studio (I was on bass - no one is cutting demos with me on guitar yet).  He's had the lyrics laid out for quite a long time, but we just finally got some chords put to it in an arrangement that satisfies him.  Once getting the right folks together in the right place, it went lickety split.  Anyway, I wrote down the chords with the lyrics and would like to send him something that he can use. 

Is chord pro the right way to do that?  If there's not a free or very inexpensive way to do it, I'll just use the good old word word word [Am] word word word [C] method. 

- Zurf

6,615

(10 replies, posted in Acoustic)

All good advice so far.  I'm also new, so my advice should be taken with a grain of salt.  I have a terrible instructor, but he's me so I can't fire him. 

Here are a few things I've done.

For chord changes, write out all the chord changes in a song.  If the progression is G- C- G- D, then you have the following changes
G to C
C to G
G to D
D to G

Once you know all the changes, practice those chords.  Once you know the chords pretty well (meaning you can get them without much delay and without having to think specifically where each finger goes), then think through how you're going to get your fingers from one chord to the other.  I find it helpful to worry about what my index finger is going to do, the others just kind of fall in line from there.  Then, do what you just thought about (i.e., the chord change) over and over and over and over and over.  Then try it with strumming a steady beat.  It doesn't have to be fast, just steady.  Once you feel fairly confident with each chord change, then you're ready to strum the song through.  So go ahead.  Strum the song through.  Sing it in your head or out loud, but bear the melody in mind.  I find it useful to sing out loud, though no one else seems to like it much.

Another thing that I am noticing that I need is the scales work.  I've just ordered a scales book and will begin practicing them.  As of right now, I'm a strummer only.  In a year, I'm hoping to be able to pick out some leads as well.  Playing lead riffs is all about arpeggios (playing the notes of the chord in certain orders) and scales.  Knowing what notes can be played in what "keys" is key to playing the right notes, and I figure that scales are the best way to learn which notes are in which keys. 

- Zurf

6,616

(8 replies, posted in Chordie's Chat Corner)

Crawlin' King Snake - John Lee Hooker

6,617

(6 replies, posted in Acoustic)

Welcome Fred.  Thanks for teaching kids about music. 

- Zurf

6,618

(3 replies, posted in Acoustic)

I always play acoustic because I mostly practice after the kids are in bed and the acoustic is quieter. 
The two songs where I've put it to good use (remember that I never play like the cover, though I wish I had the skill and talent to do so) are:

Cripple Creek Ferry by Neil Young and
Knocking on Heavens Door by Bob Dylan

Seriously, thanks so much for describing your style because it has really put me onto something that's a bunch of fun.

- Zurf

6,619

(8 replies, posted in Chordie's Chat Corner)

Little Deuce Coupe - Jan & Dean?  Maybe Beach Boys.
Hot Rod Lincoln - Asleep at the Wheel and a host of others
Maybelline - Chuck Berry

6,620

(3 replies, posted in Acoustic)

The Doc has described his method of strums with "blocked" strums and quick licks worked in.  Well, I'm not effective at running any quick licks, but I decided to try hitting some root notes hard and putting in strums, while 'blocking' every third or so strum.  So it comes out like a serious hit on the bass note, which then rings while I do an upstroke on a strum, then a down stroke on the strum, then an upstroke that's 'blocked' (I assume he meant muted, and muted the chord such that it could still be heard but was more a rhythmic hit than ringing out). 

This "blocked" chords thing of the Doc's is seriously FUNKY.  Funky in a good way.  Not funky like my kid's sneakers.  I LOVE IT!!!!  Doc, you are a freaking genius!   If I could get my butt to Belgium I'd give you a big bear hug and buy you a serious headache.  (The headache would come tomorrow) 

- Zurf

6,621

(29 replies, posted in Acoustic)

I'll use a capo.  Fine with me.  It now occurs to me that all my worship songs are chords for playing bass.  The guitar players did use capos a lot, so they probably had some pretty easy open chords to play while I was trying to remember where C# is mid-way up the neck.  Ah well, it was a fun challenge and they were good folks to play with.

As far as the low slung thing, no clue.  I've seen bassists have their basses almost to their knees.  It looks silly at best - definite poser mode as far as I'm concerned.  Look at me, I can play it real low, ain't I cool.  Just play good, buddy and don't worry about how it looks.  While you're at it, get rid of the leather pants.  That's just so LoverBoy. 

- Zurf

6,622

(12 replies, posted in Acoustic)

vheissu wrote:

Zurf, I don't think it can be the electrics, as literally any pressure on the back of the guitar makes her creak.

Ben

Didn't think it was.  You said that when you plug in the creak drowns out what you're playing.  I'm thinking that something busted loose NEAR the pickups and that whatever is loose is rubbing.  Rubbing = vibrating.  Vibrations are what guitar electronics are all about reproducing well and loudly.  I figured the electronics are fine but that you've got a couple bits of wood rubbing against one another.   

- Zurf

e-Bay.  Go out and see if anyone is selling the same albums.  Also, there's got to be some kind of an estimator book.  Check your local library and ask for help from the reference librarian.   

- Zurf

I've been fortunate to meet a few famous folks.  Some were gracious to their fans and grateful that they had given them a career.  Others were not. 

I wish I could recall who the artist was, but I recall the incident.  It wasn't a headliner type artist, but he was locally famous.  The artist had come out to front to shake some hands of folks in line.  He had a security guy with him, I suppose provided by his record label.  Anyway, some of the folks in line were pulling out cameras to get their pictures taken with him and the security guy was saying, "No cameras.  No photos."  The artist looked at the security guy and said, "I've got a job because these folks want to hear me and pay to come see me.  You've got a job because I do.  Pictures are fine with me."   Prince could take some lessons. 

You know, now that I think of it, it might have been Livingston Taylor - not a local guy at all but a real, honest-to-goodness big shot. 

- Zurf

6,625

(12 replies, posted in Acoustic)

Something's loose and rubbing with the vibration.  That's my inexpert wild guess.  Sounds to me like it's time for a luthier who is used to dealing with electronics to take a look at to see whether it's an inexpensive or a pricey repair. 

Here's hoping it's inexpensive. 

- Zurf