601

(2 replies, posted in Songwriting)

Jeff that is written  in a perfect way. You play and sing it with real good feeling.     

602

(24 replies, posted in Chordie's Chat Corner)

Hi Jim
Hope you had a good holiday. I'm hoping the people of Russia find a way to take away Putin's license to kill. It would be good to see more people post on here.

603

(6 replies, posted in Chordie's Chat Corner)

Cheers Jim and Phill

"B. J." Wilson  was the original drummer with Procol Harum. A brilliant drummer one of the best and was also in big demand as a session drummer. He played on recordings with Lulu and Cat Stevens to name two of the many he played for. Gary Brooker was a vocalist and piano player When I saw Procol Harum on stage they had two keyboard players. Matthew Fisher and Gary  Brooker.  Mathew played the Hammond organ on the 1967 single "A Whiter Shade of Pale", for which he ended up winning a songwriting credit.

I found this below on Wikipedia in answer to Jim’s question where did their name come from.



Band name
Stevens became their manager, and named the band after a Burmese cat, which had been bred by Eleonore Vogt-Chapman and belonged to Liz Coombes The cat's pedigree name was Procul Harum, Procul being the breeder's prefix.

In the absence of a definitive origin, the band's name has attracted various interpretations being said to be (incorrect) Latin for "beyond these things"; the correct Latin would be procul hīs.

Keith Reid describes how the name came about:

It's the name of a cat, a Siamese cat. It's the pedigree name, and it belonged to a friend of ours, just somebody that we used to hang out with when we were forming the band. One day, somebody pulled out the cat's birth certificate and said 'Have a look at this', and the name of the cat was Procol Harum. And somebody else, in fact a chap called Guy Stevens who was quite instrumental in Gary [Brooker, the singer and pianist] and myself getting together in the first place, said, 'Oh, you must call the group Procol Harum'. And we just accepted that. We never even questioned it, never even thought if it was a good name, we just went ahead with that suggestion.

Once we put the record out, people started to say, 'Oh, it's Latin, and it means 'beyond these things'. But in fact, we had spelled it incorrectly. It should have been P-R-U-C-U-L, I think, or P-R-U-C-O-L H-A-R-U-M. I believe that's right anyway. If we'd spelled it correctly; it would have meant beyond these things. But it seemed quite apt. That was it really. It was the suggestion of a friend and we just stuck with it.

The name of the band is frequently misspelled; often with "Procul", "Harem", both, or other variations.

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(6 replies, posted in Chordie's Chat Corner)

I was sorry to hear Gary Brooker, frontman for Procul Harum  has passed away this week.. I’m sure many of you will agree that ‘Whiter Shade of Pale’ is one of the greatest songs of our time. Part of the soundtrack of my life it is a song that I have never had a clue what its all about, but in a strange way that is part of its magic for me. I went to one of their  concerts many years back and it was real good. I can't remember buying any of their albums not sure why I didn't.

605

(4 replies, posted in Poems)

Thank you EB I hope everyone reading the poem can identify something in there  that they see happening around the world  while also at the same time  acknowledging the visionary good people in the world.     

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(4 replies, posted in Poems)

Cheers Piri brawd, I tried to write the poem in a way that left it open to many interpretations. The poem actually  started off in my head when I reflected on spending a night in a hotel behind the old Iron curtain many years back. I rang the reception to to see if I could get some soap and fresh towels. The receptionist couldn't supply me with those but asked me if I would like a girl or a boy to share my bed for the night as she had plenty that I could choose from. It was a hotel in a place that felt like hell.  From that memory using artistic license  I found my first line and then made that thought go on new imagined directions. The big  corporates all around the world get the big market share, take away the competition and then rip the consumer off. I used to work for a small company that did a lot of government work. We could always compete on price and quality. When they started moving to a preferred supplier process we started to miss out to the big operators not even given a chance to submit a tender. So to explain the government used to have an open competitive process, where any supplier can submit a tender or proposal to the  government buyer for review. Then the powers to be under our different political leaderships here moved to the closed competitive process, where selected suppliers are invited to submit tenders or proposals.  To make it simple for themselves they went through a process of cutting it down to just a handful of companies who could quote cutting out many good companies from that market like the one I worked for. They also introduced. direct sourcing,  apparently as we were told to save the government money and time where a selected supplier always a big corporate is directly approached by a government buyer to do the work.

Here in NZ we have the Monopolies Commission a big joke that is supposed to stop monopolistic practices by businesses. and ensure fair competitive principles to give consumers a fair deal.

The world is full of corruption.     

607

(4 replies, posted in Poems)

One Bad Night

One bad night in a bad hotel called Apathy.

In a room with all sorts of people you didn’t want to see.

There were all these  flash looking  people hanging around.

Friends of evil under a spell.

Devils water from a bottomless well.

A big marketplace where apprentices abound.

Show any weakness they will crush you into the ground.

Under the brightest of lights their shadiness shone.

Laughing at the people trampled on.

The only ones praying were those preying on the vulnerable and the poor.

Watch out for the people on the door.

They will steal your wallet before your feet hit the floor.

In the middle of summer.

The city’s cold heart attracting more.

Preachers shouting from pulpits.

How can we  make money if we don’t exploit the poor.

In a city called Hell.

One bad night in a bad hotel called Apathy.

A mercenary army looks the other way.

As a rich mans money paves their way.

A lust for gold.

A poor child’s soul just been sold.

In a city called Hell.

One bad night in a bad hotel called Apathy.

In the light of day.

In a tomorrow that can’t come too soon.

I will be far away from here.

Looking for people who are kind and sincere.

No longer under attack.

Or with knives in my back.

An absolute place of honesty.

An obscure place.

Full of sunshine.

Full of shining lights for the human race.

Like the light from the sun.

May goodness cover everyone.

608

(8 replies, posted in Songwriting)

Cheers Phill

Now I know where you get Jumping The Broomstick from very interesting. Using the interweb I looked up that song Lets Jump The Broomstick and this is what I found out.

"Let's Jump the Broomstick" is a song written by Charles Robins and performed first by a black Nashville group, Alvin Gaines & The Themes, in 1959, then covered that year by Brenda Lee. Her version reached No.12 in the United Kingdom in 1961. Song attached first time I remember hearing it is today but maybe others have memories of it on here.   
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLFmHpa0m4A


I also found this on interweb about the history of jumping the broomstick.


Like many traditions, the history of jumping the broom at a wedding ceremony is complicated and difficult to trace back to one single source. Some believe the practice originated in the early 1700s in Wales, when broomstick weddings served as a Welsh marriage rite for Roma communities who were not permitted to marry in churches. In this execution, the broom was placed at the threshold of a door, and the groom jumped first, followed by his bride. The practice grew in popularity over the decades, and by the turn of the century, was quite common. It may even serve as the original inspiration for the “carrying the bride over the threshold” tradition we see practiced by modern couples of all cultures today.

Another theory is that jumping the broom originated in West Africa, in the region now known as Ghana. It’s believed that in this practice, the broom cleansed the marriage ceremony of evil spirits and represented the couple’s commitment to caring for and maintaining their newly shared home (and, metaphorically, their marriage). In some cases, the couple would both jump the broom, and whoever was observed as jumping the highest would be given the role of decision maker for the home.  The practice is thought to have eventually made its way to the American South as a result of the transatlantic slave trade. Another theory for how this practice became implemented by African Americans is through cultural exchange with poor white American southerners, many of whom were direct descendants of British islanders who practiced broom-jumping as a legal wedding alternative, as described above.

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(8 replies, posted in Songwriting)

Cheers Jim
I remember reading a novel a few years back written by Alex Haley called Roots in that book the early slaves got married in ceremony of jumping the broom. Reading Phill’s wonderful lyrics at that point of the song made me think of that book. Though I am not sure if Phill’s  use of the metaphor for getting married  in the lines  my folks jumped the broomstick.at the end of a gun came out of that historical context. I was born only a few months after my parents got married and it was only after I became a young adult that I realized what my relations meant when they said to me , my mum and dad jumped the broomstick when they got married. I agree with you Jim that’s the beauty of the poetry of lyrics its words can often be  interpreted or conjure up all sorts of different images for the reader or the listener.     

610

(1 replies, posted in Chordie's Chat Corner)

A chap I know he plays piano has been taking singing lessons recently he now has this whole new good way of using his voice. Good one Beamer.     

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(8 replies, posted in Songwriting)

Cheers Phill . Brian when he sent me the line ` ive been dealt this hand and that's alright by me``, my thoughts immediately conjured up these lyrics  Some people need two blankets. I just need one.  Then when you added  the lyrics below, to the song that is when we had a good platform that started us on a journey to find a good story to go with it



Some live in the moonlight.

I live in the sun.

my folks jumped the broomstick.

at the end of a gun.

They tied the knot.

and then he ran.



The songs story grew naturally from there with us three throwing lyrics around. Then with your talented facilitation doing the tidying up of all of our lyrics plus composing the music backing it all came together real good. I am real pleased with way the song came out .

Thank you Phill and Brian for making me part of this project. It would be good to see and hear Brian doing some song projects with other people on chordie.



Jim, thank you  for taking the time to make a comment and have a listen and checking out the video.

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(8 replies, posted in Songwriting)

This is a song written by Easy Beat,  Phill Williams and myself. I hope the video does the song justice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSdwJ-cC8JA

613

(7 replies, posted in Chordie's Chat Corner)

Congratulations Jim.  I am sure you would have impacted many students over the years in good and  positive  ways. Now your teaching and coaching river has run its course an ocean of new possibilities is opening up to you. No doubt in time, some of those  past reflections in the mirror of calm waters ahead will help you create some real good songs.

614

(14 replies, posted in Chordie's Chat Corner)

Zurf that guitar of yours has got a beautiful tone and you sing and play Rexs Blues real good. I liked your spoken intro, introducing the song also.

615

(5 replies, posted in Songwriting)

Jeff that's got a good flow to it  and lyrically bang on.

616

(9 replies, posted in Songwriting)

TIGLJK wrote:

Paul McCartney or John Entwistle,  of course.

Cheers Jim
I think John Entwistle is busy making music with Doctor John and Stevie Ray Vaughn all who are not answering their phones at the moment so we might have to make do with Paul McCartney. It will be wonderful to see Paul working with Ringo again. Now I am wondering would a  band called Wanted  Dead Or Alive be an appropriate name for Phills new group.????     

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(9 replies, posted in Songwriting)

Thank you Mojo     

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(9 replies, posted in Songwriting)

Thank you Jim for taking the time to comment and have a watch and listen. It would be a real good rockn the blues band with Phill Williams, Stevie Ray Vaughan and maybe Billy Gibbons on guitars. Though it might be hard getting Stevie there due to the helicopter accident, We would also need another tricky person to get in, on piano considering where he is now  that person is Doctor John. To give the sound a different edge maybe Ringo on drums. Maybe Booker T , Jones on Organ. Who do we get to play bass  that  could be tricky.????????????     

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(9 replies, posted in Songwriting)

Here is Phill Williams rockn the blues on a song we wrote together called Taking My Time. Its an absolute privilege to have Phill share his considerable talents with me on this one. I just hope the video does the song justice. Phill's vocals and guitar on this are superb with the bass and organ plus the drums pushing it along nicely.  Love to hear your comments on this good or bad.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqL7Fgsq6i8 

620

(18 replies, posted in Songwriting)

Good lyrics EB.     

621

(2 replies, posted in Songwriting)

Good one Beamer interesting version.     

622

(4 replies, posted in Songwriting)

Hippy girls that takes me back  a few decades crazy wild girls living in broken down houses or squats  partying.  I knew many who are settled down old ladies  now living  conventional life's. Never went out with any as a boyfriend but had some wild times I tended more towards the conventional type of gal.     

623

(2 replies, posted in Songwriting)

I enjoyed that Jim.     

624

(28 replies, posted in Chordie's Chat Corner)

Riversdale lets rock on, Here is Phill doing an accordion sound on a song..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UHHcYdko8A

625

(8 replies, posted in Songwriting)

Jeff I like these words in your song very clever.

Why does it seem

Some strings like to

Stray a little out

Kind of like me