thanks jim, deep answer my friend. i never thought of all the people that have come and gone from my life. i worked with a guy only for a year or two that had worked in the factory for 50 years from when he left school. he was made to retire though he didn't want to, and kept saying that if needed he would drop everything and be back to help if needed. the place carried on without him much to his surprize and he died within a year. after that i found a slogan;
work to live. don't live to work.
Around here we call that "THE CARRY OUT PLAN"guys been here 50 yrs and still wont retire they will die here and get a carry out plan.. I do have a probalem with that,, isnt 30 yrs in one place enough<< come on and give the younger guys a chance.